2023-76 ED  
Public Hearing 4-11-2024  
Note: Public Hearings were also held on April 9th from 9:00-11:00 a.m. and 1:00-5:00  
p.m. and no comment was provided.  
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All right.  
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Good afternoon.  
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My name is Nancy Rotarius.  
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I'm with the Michigan Department of Education Office of Special Education, and I will be conducting  
today's public hearing.  
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This is a public hearing on Proposed Administrative Rules, 202376 Ed.  
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Michigan Administrative Rules for Special Education.  
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This public hearing is conducted as required by the Administrative Procedures Act to allow the public  
to comment on proposed changes to this rule set.  
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As with all other public hearings and draft rule sets, the only items to be discussed during this hearing  
will be proposed changes to the rule sets.  
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This hearing will not cover any questions or discussions other than those issues.  
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If you have questions about proposed rule changes or other special Ed questions, please contact the  
MDEOSE Information Desk at 1-888-320-8384 or MDE Dash OSE at michigan.gov We are calling this  
hearing to order at 3:31 PM on April 11th via ZOOM.  
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Notice of this public hearing was published on April 1st, 2024 in the Michigan Register.  
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In addition, 3 newspapers of general circulation Detroit Free Press, Grand Rapids Press and the  
Marquette Mining Journal, as well as the Michigan Register on issue 5 on April 1st.  
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All comments should relate directly to the proposed rules.  
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If you have suggested changes to the proposed rules, please include the specific reasons why these  
changes would be in public interest.  
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A link to a copy to the rules and supporting documents will be added to the chat.  
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We will take your comments in the following manner.  
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For those using the video portion of Zoom, please use the Raise your Hand button at the bottom of  
the screen.  
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You can also raise your hand using the following shortcuts.  
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These will also be added to chat for Windows.  
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You can use Alt Plus Y keyboard shortcut to raise or lower your hand.  
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I'm sorry I didn't get you an ice pack.  
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Heather, can you can we please mute Heather?  
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Sorry for a Mac.  
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You can also use Option Y keyboard shortcut to razor you'll lower your hand.  
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We will unmute you and allow you to turn your camera on if you wish.  
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If you prefer, we will accept comments added to the chat, as the comments in the chat will be saved to  
the transcript as a part of public comment record.  
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Please note we will not respond to questions or comments submitted via chat.  
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For participants accessing today's public hearing by telephone, we will ask you if you wish to make  
comment after the video participants have finished.  
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I will call on individuals to speak and they will be unmuted at that time.  
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When you speak, please identify yourself in the organization you represent so the information is  
transcribed into the hearing report.  
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We will limit comments to 3 minutes per person.  
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If you have a comment but do not wish to speak, you may enter them into the chat.  
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Again, if you would like to provide comment, please raise your hand.  
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Also, please note that the department will accept comments online at www.michigan.gov/special  
Education under the OSE spotlight for proposed rule changes.  
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You may also submit comments via e-mail at mde-ose-public-comment@michigan.gov or mail  
written comments to public comment Office of Special Education, Michigan Department of Education,  
PO Box 30008, Lansing, MI 489-O9.  
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All comments must be received no later than April 19th at 5:00 PM.  
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If there is no one that wishes to speak at this time, we will take a short recess.  
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The time is now 340.  
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OK, the time is now 348 and we have reconvened from the hearing.  
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If you would like to provide comment, please feel free to raise your hand or turn your camera on.  
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Janet Timbs, Go ahead.  
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Hi, my name is Janet Timbs.  
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I'm manager of Birth to Five, Early Childhood Special education in the department of MI-LEAP.  
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I just wanted to say that I support the the changes, the rule changes or the proposed language  
changes that are out for comment right now.  
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I particularly support the age range change.  
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I think that will be most appropriate for beneficial for preschoolers and for school districts, so in  
families in general.  
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So good job.  
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I appreciate it.  
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Thank you Janet.  
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If there's anyone else that wishes to provide comment at this time, you can use the raise your hand  
function.  
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Additionally, information has been added to the chat too if you have questions regarding rule  
changes, you can contact our information line and that contact information is available in the chat.  
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OK, at this time I will jump off the meeting and if you need anything else from me, just let me know.  
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OK.  
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Thank you, Janet.  
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Yep, Thank you.  
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If there are no other people who wish to speak at this time, we will take a short recess.  
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The time is 354.  
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The time is now 410.  
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The hearing is reconvened, seen as we have no new participants.  
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I'm gonna go back into recess until someone else joins, or I'll turn back my camera on and reconvene,  
and the time is now 410.  
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Oh, sorry, the time is now 425.  
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The hearing is reconvened.  
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Seeing that there are no new participants, we will go into recess once again and return either if a  
participant joins or in about 15 minutes.  
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The time is 4:40.  
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The hearing is reconvened.  
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Seeing that we've had no new participants join us.  
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We will take another recess for about 15 minutes or unless someone joins the Zoom meeting.  
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The time is still 440.  
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The time is 455.  
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The hearing is reconvened.  
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Seen as that, we have no new participants that have joined.  
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We will take another recess for about 15 minutes or unless another participant joins the meeting.  
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The time is still 455.  
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The time is 505.  
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The hearing is reconvened.  
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Seeing that there are no participants who have joined us on the ZOOM meeting, we will, we will.  
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We will go into recess until someone joins or until about 5:28.  
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Though the time is now 528.  
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The hearing is reconvened.  
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Seeing that there are no other participants, we will close the hearing.  
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The time is still 528 and I declare this hearing closed.  
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If you have further comments, the department will also accept written comments at www.michigan.  
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Dot Gov forward splash slash special education under OSE Spotlight public comment for proposed  
rule changes.  
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You may also submit comments via e-mail at mde-ose-public-comment@michigan.gov or mail  
written comments to public comment.  
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Office of Special Education, Michigan Department of Education, PO Box 30008, Lansing, MI 489-O9.  
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All comments must be received no later than 5:00 PM on April 19th, 2024.  
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Thank you.  
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And that ends this hearing.  
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