STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
LANSING  
GRETCHEN WHITMER  
GOVERNOR  
ORLENE HAWKS  
DIRECTOR  
MICHIGAN BOARD ARCHITECTS  
MEETING  
UNAPPROVED MINUTES  
JANUARY 13, 2021  
In accordance with the Open Meetings Act, 1976 PA 267, as amended, the Michigan Board  
of Architects met on January 13, 2021. The meeting was held via Zoom, pursuant to MCL  
15.263 and MCL 15.263a.  
CALL TO ORDER  
Scott Gustafson, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 1:01 p.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: Scott Gustafson, Architect, Chairperson  
Attended remotely from the city of Northfield Township,  
Washtenaw County, Michigan.  
Jennifer R. Myers, Architect, Vice Chairperson  
Attended remotely from the city of Troy, Oakland County,  
Michigan.  
Patrick Barry, Architect  
Attended remotely from the city of New Hudson, Oakland County,  
Michigan.  
Gilbert Barish, Professional Surveyor  
Attended remotely from the city of Lansing, Ingham County,  
Michigan.  
Allan Machielse, Architect  
Attended remotely from the city of Detroit, Wayne County,  
Michigan.  
Deveron Q. Sanders, Professional Engineer  
Attended remotely from the city of Detroit, Wayne County,  
Michigan.  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
611 W. OTTAWA • P.O. BOX 30670 • LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909  
www.michigan.gov/bpl • 517-241-0199  
LARA is an equal opportunity employer/program  
Michigan Board of Architects  
Meeting Minutes  
January 13, 2021  
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Members Absent: Jay Larson, Public Member  
Matthew Slagle, Architect  
Joseph Welmers, Public Member  
Staff:  
Weston MacIntosh, Senior Policy Analyst, Boards and Committees Section  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support, Boards and Committees Section  
APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
MOTION by Myers, seconded by Sanders, to approve the agenda, as presented.  
A roll call vote was held:  
Yeas: Barish, Barry, Machielse, Sanders, Myers, Gustafson  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION by Barry, seconded by Myers, to approve the minutes from September 9, 2020,  
as written.  
A roll call vote was held:  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Yeas: Barish, Barry, Machielse, Sanders, Myers, Gustafson  
Nays: None  
NATIONAL COUNCIL OF ARCHITECTURAL REGISTRATION BOARDS (NCARB)  
PRESENTATION  
Michael Armstrong, CEO for NCARB, thanked Barry, Larson, and Myers for their volunteer  
work with NCARB. He stated that the Region 4 Summit meeting would be held virtually on  
March 4-5, 2021. He highlighted some things going on with NCARB, such as discussions  
about foreign trained individuals and updates to the examination, as well as how it is  
proctored.  
Josh Batkin, Vice President for Council Relations for NCARB encouraged the Board  
members to volunteer with NCARB and stated that there are many committees available.  
More information on that should be released in the next month or so.  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
None  
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Meeting Minutes  
January 13, 2021  
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OLD BUSINESS  
None  
NEW BUSINESS  
Resolution Presentation  
Gustafson presented resolutions to Barish, Barry, and Larson, honoring the time they served  
on the Board of Architects.  
Committee Assignments  
Gustafson made the following appointments to the rules committee: Gustafson, Machielse,  
Sanders.  
Rules Discussion  
MOTION by Sanders, seconded by Myers, to open the rules.  
A roll call vote was held:  
Yeas: Barish, Barry, Machielse, Sanders, Myers, Gustafson  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Chair Report  
None  
Department Update  
Wysack stated that Kiran Parag, Senior Compliance Analyst, was retiring. He expressed  
his gratitude to the Board for their work with him over the years.  
Wysack reminded the Board Members to check their state email address regularly as it is  
now the source of communication with the Department. She stated that the state email  
address will soon be used as the User ID for Egress, so it is important to get in the habit of  
checking the email on a regular basis. She asked that they add her work cell phone number  
to their phones for easier communication.  
MacIntosh stated that the Bureau will hold the next new Board Member Training on February  
18, 2021. All Board members are welcome to attend.  
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January 13, 2021  
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PUBLIC COMMENT  
None  
ANNOUNCEMENTS  
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held May 12, 2021 at 2:00 p.m., at 611 West  
Ottawa Street, Upper- Level Conference Center Room 3, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by Myers, seconded by Sanders, to adjourn the meeting at 1:51 p.m.  
A roll call vote was held:  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Yeas: Barish, Barry, Machielse, Sanders, Myers, Gustafson  
Nays: None  
Minutes approved by the Board on: __________________________.  
Prepared By:  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
January 13, 2021  
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