STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
LANSING  
GRETCHEN WHITMER  
GOVERNOR  
MARLON I. BROWN, DPA  
ACTING DIRECTOR  
MICHIGAN BOARD OF REAL ESTATE BROKERS  
AND SALESPERSONS  
NOVEMBER 20, 2023 MEETING  
UNAPPROVED MINUTES  
In accordance with the Open Meetings Act, 1976 PA 267, as amended, the Michigan  
Board of Real Estate Brokers and Salespersons met on November 20, 2023, at 611 West  
Ottawa Street, Upper-Level Conference Room 4, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
CALL TO ORDER  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician, called the meeting to order at 10:25 a.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: Chase Cantrell, Public Member  
Andrew Gutman, Real Estate Associate Broker  
Abe Koumaiha, Real Estate Agent  
Maggie LaHaie, Public Member  
Nusrat Moghul, Real Estate Broker  
Members Absent: Christopher Germain, Real Estate Salesperson  
Natalie Rowe, Real Estate Associate Broker, Chairperson  
Benjamin Smith, III, Real Estate Broker, Vice Chairperson  
Christian Rodriguez, Public Member  
Staff:  
Laury Brown, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Sloane Ebersole, JD, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Dena Marks, JD, Departmental Specialist,  
Boards and Committees Section  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician,  
Boards and Committees Section  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
611 W. OTTAWA P.O. BOX 30670 LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909  
www.michigan.gov/bpl 517-241-0199  
LARA is an equal opportunity employer/program  
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Meeting Minutes  
November 20, 2023  
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APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Gutman, to approve the agenda, amending it with the  
removal of items 5.B.1., B.5., and 6. and item 6, with the addition of new item 7.A. Rules  
Discussion.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION by Moghul, seconded by LaHaie, to approve the minutes from August 21, 2023,  
as written.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
Hearing Reports  
MOTION by Cantrell, seconded by Gutman, to receive the hearing reports.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Maven Properties, LLC  
MOTION by Cantrell, seconded by Gutman, to dissolve the Order of Summary  
Suspension and revoke the Respondent’s license for a minimum of five years.  
Discussion was held.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Kamil Mojet  
Koumaiha recused.  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Cantrell, to table the matter due to loss of quorum.  
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November 20, 2023  
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A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Consent Order and Stipulation  
Classic Cottages, Inc.  
MOTION by Gutman, seconded by LaHaie, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Engel Group LLC d/b/a Real Property Management Investment Solutions Real  
Estate Broker Company and Matthew Engel  
MOTION by Cantrell, seconded by LaHaie, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Elizabeth Ann Engel  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Cantrell, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Neal Jason Strayhorn  
Koumaiha recused.  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Cantrell, to table the matter due to loss of quorum.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
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OLD BUSINESS  
None  
NEW BUSINESS  
Rules Discussion  
Marks stated that there was legislation pending that would change the continuing  
education requirement, currently listed in the administrative rules. She stated that the  
rules should be opened to begin work on the draft if needed, prior to the next board  
meeting on February 12, 2024.  
MOTION by Moghul, seconded by Cantrell, to open the rules.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Chair Report  
None  
Department Update  
Marks reminded the board that the department will hold board member training on  
February 21, 2024, at 1:00 p.m. via Zoom. All members are welcome to attend.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
Tara Brown expressed her concern regarding a complaint she had filed with the  
department.  
ANNOUNCEMENTS  
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held on February 12, 2024, at 10:00 a.m. at  
611 West Ottawa Street, Upper-Level Conference Center Room 4, Lansing, Michigan  
48933.  
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November 20, 2023  
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ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Gutman, to adjourn the meeting at 10:45 a.m.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
CALL TO ORDER  
Dena Marks, JD, Departmental Specialist, reconvened the meeting at 10:52 a.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: Chase Cantrell, Public Member  
Andrew Gutman, Real Estate Associate Broker  
Abe Koumaiha, Real Estate Agent  
Maggie LaHaie, Public Member  
Nusrat Moghul, Real Estate Broker  
Members Absent: Christopher Germain, Real Estate Salesperson  
Natalie Rowe, Real Estate Associate Broker, Chairperson  
Benjamin Smith, III, Real Estate Broker, Vice Chairperson  
Christian Rodriguez, Public Member  
Staff:  
Laury Brown, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Sloane Ebersole, JD, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Dena Marks, JD, Departmental Specialist,  
Boards and Committees Section  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician,  
Boards and Committees Section  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
Hearing Reports  
Maven Properties, LLC  
Marks stated that the board needed to vacate the previous decision made on this item,  
due to a conflict of interest.  
MOTION by Cantrell, seconded by Gutman, to vacate the previous judgement voted on  
by the board.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
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November 20, 2023  
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MOTION PREVAILED  
Koumaiha recused.  
MOTION by LaHaie, seconded by Gutman, to table the item due to lack of quorum.  
A roll call vote was taken: Yeas: Cantrell, Gutman, Koumaiha, LaHaie, Moghul  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by Moghul, seconded by LaHaie, to adjourn the meeting at 10:54 a.m.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Minutes approved by the Board on:  
Prepared by:  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
November 20, 2023  
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