STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
LANSING  
GRETCHEN WHITMER  
GOVERNOR  
ORLENE HAWKS  
DIRECTOR  
MICHIGAN BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS  
MEETING  
APPROVED MINUTES  
MAY 11, 2022  
In accordance with the Open Meetings Act, 1976 PA 267, as amended, the Michigan Board  
of Professional Engineers met on May 11, 2022, at 611 West Ottawa Street, Upper-Level  
Conference Room 3, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
CALL TO ORDER  
Deveron Q. Sanders, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 10:30 a.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: Deveron Q. Sanders, PE, Chairperson  
Nancy M. McClain, PE, Vice Chairperson  
Brett Dodge, PS  
Dima S. El-Gamal, Ph.D. PE, LEEDAP  
Charles Hookham, PE  
Dax T. Richer, Architect  
Steven Warren, PE  
Members Absent: None  
Staff:  
Weston MacIntosh, JD, Departmental Specialist,  
Boards and Committees Section  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician,  
Boards and Committees Section  
APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
MOTION by El-Gamal, seconded by Richer, to approve the agenda as presented.  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
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Michigan Board of Professional Engineers  
Meeting Minutes  
May 11, 2022  
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A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION by Dodge, seconded by El-Gamal, to approve the minutes from January 12, 2022,  
as written.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
None  
OLD BUSINESS  
None  
NEW BUSINESS  
Resolution Presentation  
Sanders presented a Resolution to Dietta McKinney, honoring the time she served on the  
Michigan Board of Professional Engineers.  
Rules Discussion  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by Warren, to open the rules.  
A roll call vote was held:  
Yeas: Dodge, El-Gamal, Hookham, Richer, Warren,  
McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Chair Report  
Sanders stated that he attended the NCEES Zone meeting in May. He stated that NCEES  
announced that fees for both the surveyors’ and engineers’ examinations were increasing.  
Michigan Board of Professional Engineers  
Meeting Minutes  
May 11, 2022  
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Department Update  
MacIntosh stated that the Bureau will hold the next Board Member Training on August 16,  
2022, via Zoom. All Board members are welcome to attend.  
MacIntosh stated that Amy Gumbrecht had been named Director of the Bureau of  
Professional Licensing.  
Wysack reminded the Board members to continue to check their state email address  
regularly.  
Wysack stated that Board members will need to sign the affidavit in their blue folders, in  
addition to their travel voucher, in order to receive reimbursement of the $5.00 visitor lot  
fee.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
Robert C. Hoffman, Jr., PE, CFEI stated that the continuing education rules for Professional  
Engineers are draconian and should be changed or removed.  
ANNOUNCEMENTS  
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held September 14, 2022, at 11:00 a.m., at  
611 West Ottawa Street, Upper-Level Conference Center Room 3, Lansing, Michigan  
48933.  
ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by Dodge, to adjourn the meeting at 10:44 a.m.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Minutes approved by the Board on:  
Prepared by:  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
May 12, 2022  
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