STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
LANSING  
GRETCHEN WHITMER  
GOVERNOR  
ORLENE HAWKS  
DIRECTOR  
MICHIGAN BOARD OF REAL ESTATE APPRAISERS  
JUNE 18, 2019 MEETING  
APPROVED MINUTES  
In accordance with the Open Meetings Act, 1976 PA 267, as amended, the Michigan  
Board of Real Estate Appraisers met on June 18, 2019, at the Ottawa Building,  
Conference Room 4, 611 West Ottawa Street, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
CALL TO ORDER  
James Hartman, Acting Chairperson, Certified General Real Estate Appraiser, called the  
meeting to order at 9:00 a.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: James Hartman, Vice Chairperson, Certified General Real Estate Appraiser  
Delbert Denkins, Certified General Real Estate Appraiser  
Phyllis Howard, Public Member  
Mark Jenkins, Certified Residential Appraiser  
Christian Rodriguez, Public Member (Arrived at 9:08)  
Martin Wagar, State Certified Real Estate Appraiser  
Thomas Watson, State Licensed Real Estate Appraiser  
Ronald Wheeler, Certified Residential Real Estate Appraiser  
Members Absent:  
Staff:  
David Worthams, Chairperson, Public Member  
Laury Brown, Analyst, Compliance Section  
Kimberly Catlin, Board Support, Boards and Committees Section  
Andria Ditschman, Analyst, Boards and Committees Section  
Jennifer Fitzgerald, Assistant Attorney General  
APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
MOTION by Wagar, seconded by Wheeler, to approve the agenda with the addition of  
conferee discussion as item (D) under new business.  
A voice vote was taken.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
611 W. OTTAWA • P.O. BOX 30670 • LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909  
www.michigan.gov/bpl • 517-241-0199  
LARA is an equal opportunity employer/program  
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APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION by Denkins, seconded by Wheeler, to approve the minutes from March 19, 2019  
with the addition of Andria Ditschman being listed under staff present.  
A voice vote was taken.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
Nathaniel Briscoe– Consent Order and Stipulation  
MOTION by Wheeler, seconded by Wagar, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
Discussion was held.  
A roll call vote was taken:  
Yeas: Denkins, Jenkins, Howard, Wagar, Wheeler,  
Watson, Hartman  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Adam Hardej– Consent Order and Stipulation  
MOTION by Denkins, seconded by Watson, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
A roll call vote was taken:  
Yeas: Denkins, Jenkins, Howard, Rodriguez, Wagar,  
Wheeler, Watson, Hartman  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Rochelle Walker– Consent Order and Stipulation  
MOTION by Wheeler, seconded by Denkins, to discuss the matter.  
A voice vote was taken.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Discussion was held.  
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MOTION by Wheeler, seconded by Wagar, to accept the Consent Order and Stipulation.  
A roll call vote was taken:  
Yeas: Denkins, Howard, Rodriguez, Wagar, Wheeler,  
Watson, Hartman  
Nays: None  
Recuse: Jenkins  
MOTION PREVAILED  
OLD BUSINESS  
None  
NEW BUSINESS  
Rules Discussion  
Ditschman informed the Board that LARA leadership has mandated that all rules  
committee meetings will be open to the public and will be referred to as Rules Work Group  
Meetings. The public will be invited to attend and will be able to discuss proposed rules  
with the Rules Committee.  
MOTION by Wheeler, seconded by Rodriguez, to open the rules.  
A roll call vote was taken:  
Yeas: Denkins, Jenkins, Howard, Rodriguez, Wagar,  
Wheeler, Watson, Hartman  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Chair Report  
None  
Department Update  
Ditschman announced that the department will be providing another board training on  
July 31, 2019, and all members are welcome to attend.  
Conferee Discussion  
Wagar inquired how conferees receive their materials for review and expressed concern  
with receiving items that have been copied several times.  
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Wagar asked if Investigations can also utilize the Egress portal. Brown stated that she  
will report back at the next regularly scheduled meeting, after consulting with the  
Investigations Divison.  
PUBLIC COMMENTS  
Michael Kurschat, ASA, M.S.F., MAI, introduced himself to the Board. Mr. Kurschat  
expressed concern with being unable to advertise a program prior to approval and having  
to submit an application for a program 60 days prior to the event taking place.  
ANNOUNCEMENTS  
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held September 17, 2019 at 9:00 a.m. at the  
Ottawa Building, 611 West Ottawa Street, Upper Level Conference Room 4, Lansing,  
Michigan.  
ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by Wagar, seconded by Watson, to adjourn the meeting at 9:50 a.m.  
A voice vote was held.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Minutes approved by the Board on September 17, 2019.  
Prepared By:  
Kimmy Catlin, Board Support  
Prepared: June 18, 2019  
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