STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
LANSING  
GRETCHEN WHITMER  
GOVERNOR  
MARLON I. BROWN, DPA  
ACTING DIRECTOR  
MICHIGAN BOARD OF PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS  
MEETING  
UNAPPROVED MINUTES  
SEPTEMBER 13, 2023  
In accordance with the Open Meetings Act, 1976 PA 267, as amended, the Michigan Board  
of Professional Engineers met on September 13, 2023, at 611 West Ottawa Street, Upper-  
Level Conference Room 3, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
CALL TO ORDER  
Deveron Q. Sanders, Chairperson, called the meeting to order at 11:06 a.m.  
ROLL CALL  
Members Present: Deveron Q. Sanders, PE, Chairperson  
Nancy M. McClain, PE, Vice-Chairperson  
Jane Abadir, Public Member  
Dima S. El-Gamal, Ph.D., PE, LEEDAP  
Stanley Opal, Public Member  
Dax T. Richer, Architect  
Steven Warren, PE  
Members Absent: Brett Dodge, PS  
Staff:  
Laury Brown, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Marshall Hooks, Senior Analyst, Compliance Section  
Weston MacIntosh, JD, Departmental Specialist,  
Boards and Committees Section  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician,  
Boards and Committees Section  
APPROVAL OF AGENDA  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by Opal, to approve the agenda as presented.  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
611 W. OTTAWA P.O. BOX 30670 LANSING, MICHIGAN 48909  
www.michigan.gov/bpl 517-241-0199  
LARA is an equal opportunity employer/program  
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A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
APPROVAL OF MINUTES  
MOTION by Warren, seconded by El-Gamal, to approve the minutes from May 10, 2023,  
as written.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
REGULATORY CONSIDERATIONS  
Hearing Reports  
MOTION by Opal, seconded by El-Gamal, to receive the Hearing Reports.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Namrood Joseph Al-Mooshi  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by Warren, to discuss.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Discussion was held.  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by Richer, to place the Respondent on probation for a  
minimum of one day, not to exceed one year, to complete the deficient continuing  
education. The continuing education credits shall not count toward the current license  
renewal period. Respondent is fined $1,750.00 to be paid within 180 days of the effective  
date of the order. The license will be automatically suspended if the Respondent is non-  
compliant with the order.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
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Joungmin Oh  
MOTION by Abadir, seconded by McClain, to place Respondent on probation for a  
minimum of one day, not to exceed one year, to complete the deficient continuing  
education. The continuing education credits shall not count toward the current license  
renewal period. Respondent is fined $850.00 to be paid within 180 days of the effective  
date of the order. The license will be automatically suspended if the Respondent is non-  
compliant with the order.  
Discussion was held.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Yuncong Yu  
MOTION by Opal, seconded by McClain, to place Respondent on probation for a minimum  
of one day, not to exceed one year, to complete the deficient continuing education. The  
continuing education credits shall not count toward the current license renewal period.  
Respondent is fined $1,750.00 to be paid within 180 days of the effective date of the order.  
The license will be automatically suspended if the Respondent is non-compliant with the  
order.  
Discussion was held.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
OLD BUSINESS  
None  
NEW BUSINESS  
2024 Public Notice  
MacIntosh presented the 2024 Public Notice. He reminded the board members to mark  
the dates on their calendar and to remember to notify the Department in advance if they  
are unable to attend.  
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Elections  
MacIntosh ran the election for chairperson.  
MOTION by Opal, seconded by El-Gamal, to re-elect Sanders as chairperson.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
MacIntosh ran the election for vice-chairperson.  
MOTION by El-Gamal, seconded by Opal, to re-elect McClain as vice-chairperson.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Committee Assignments  
Sanders made no changes to this committee.  
Resolutions Concerning Continuing Education Discussion  
MacIntosh provided an overview of the Board of Professional Engineers, Resolutions  
Concerning Continuing Education.  
Discussion was held.  
MOTION by El-Gamal, seconded by Opal, to approve the Resolutions Concerning  
Continuing Education, as presented.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
MOTION PREVAILED  
Rules Discussion  
MOTION by McClain, seconded by El-Gamal, to open the rules.  
A roll call vote was held: Yeas: Abadir, El-Gamal, Opal, Richer, Warren, McClain, Sanders  
Nays: None  
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MOTION PREVAILED  
Chair Report  
Sanders stated that at the NCEES Central Zone meeting it was mentioned that a subsidiary  
organization had been created to facilitate volunteer work.  
Sanders stated that the next meeting will be held in April 2024.  
Sanders asked the Board members to encourage public to attend.  
Department Update  
MacIntosh reminded board members that meetings are now recorded and that board  
members should be mindful of microphones and remember to speak clearly.  
MacIntosh stated that Bryan Modelski had been named Deputy Director for the Bureau of  
Professional Licensing.  
MacIntosh stated that the next New Board Member training would be held in early  
2024, via Zoom. All members are welcome to attend.  
MacIntosh reminded board members to check their state email as it is the form of  
communication used with the department.  
PUBLIC COMMENT  
James McLaughlin would like to the board to consider adding alternate forms of continuing  
education.  
ANNOUNCEMENTS  
The next regularly scheduled meeting will be held January 10, 2024, at 11:00 a.m., at 611  
West Ottawa Street, Upper-Level Conference Center Room 3, Lansing, Michigan 48933.  
ADJOURNMENT  
MOTION by Warren, seconded by McClain, to adjourn the meeting at 11:52 a.m.  
A voice vote followed.  
MOTION PREVAILED  
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Minutes approved by the Board on:  
Prepared by:  
Stephanie Wysack, Board Support Technician  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
September 13, 2023  
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