Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules  
611 W. Ottawa Street  
Lansing, MI 48909  
Phone: 517-335-8658 Fax: 517-335-9512  
AGENCY REPORT TO THE  
JOINT COMMITEE ON ADMNINISTRATIVE RULES (JCAR)  
1. Agency Information  
Agency name:  
Licensing and Regulatory Affairs  
Division/Bureau/Office:  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
Name of person completing this form:  
Weston MacIntosh  
Phone number of person completing this form:  
517-241-9269  
E-mail of person completing this form:  
Name of Department Regulatory Affairs Officer reviewing this form:  
Elizabeth Arasim  
2. Rule Set Information  
MOAHR assigned rule set number:  
2019-31 LR  
Title of proposed rule set:  
Professional Engineers – General Rules  
3. Purpose for the proposed rules and background:  
The general purpose of the proposed rules is to amend the previously adopted rules to eliminate  
outdated language, create consistency with 1980 PA 299, known as the occupational code, and  
provide clarity regarding the requirements for licensure, renewal, relicensure, and the standards of  
practice and professional conduct. The proposed rules are intended to revise the definitions used in  
the rules, update references to standards previously adopted by reference and revise the education,  
experience and examination requirements that must be satisfied to receive a license. New rules will  
be added that pertain to license by reciprocity, renewal, and relicensure. Further, a new table will be  
added to outline the continuing education requirements that must be satisfied for renewal of a license.  
Lastly, the rules pertaining to standards of practice and professional conduct will be revised.  
4. Summary of proposed rules:  
MCL 24.242 and 24.245  
Agency Report to JCAR-Page 2  
The proposed rules will revise the definitions of terms used in the rules, revise the education,  
experience, and examination requirements that must be satisfied to receive a license, and clarify the  
requirements pertaining to the seal of a professional engineer. In addition, relicensure and continuing  
education requirements will be clarified, and the rules pertaining to the standards of practice and  
professional conduct will be revised.  
5. List names of newspapers in which the notice of public hearing was published and  
publication dates:  
The Grand Rapids Press, September 19, 2019  
The Mining Journal, September 18, 2019  
The Flint Journal, September 19, 2019  
6. Date of publication of rules and notice of public hearing in Michigan Register:  
10/4/2019  
7. Date, time, and location of public hearing:  
10/4/2019 09:00 AM at G. Mennen Williams Building - Auditorium , 525 W. Ottawa Street, Lansing,  
MI  
8. Provide the link the agency used to post the regulatory impact statement and cost-benefit  
analysis on its website:  
9. List of the name and title of agency representative(s) attending public hearing:  
Andria Ditschman, Senior Policy Analyst, Bureau of Professional Licensing  
Weston MacIntosh, Senior Policy Analyst, Bureau of Professional Licensing  
Dena Marks, Senior Policy Analyst, Bureau of Professional Licensing  
Kerry Przybylo, Manager, Boards and Committees Section, Bureau of Professional Licensing  
10. Persons submitting comments of support:  
None, however, the Department withdrew the rules with permission, and they are now being  
resubmitted.  
11. Persons submitting comments of opposition:  
Thomas Campbell, Craig Hoff, James McLaughlin, Stephen Nichols  
12. Identify any changes made to the proposed rules based on comments received during the  
public comment period:  
Name &  
Comments made at Written  
Agency Rationale Rule number  
Organization public hearing  
Comments  
for change  
& citation  
changed  
1
James  
Objection is  
Compensation of a Current rule  
McLaughlin  
made to the last licensee is  
R 339.16001  
sentence in old  
independent from (1)(b),  
rule R 339.16001 satisfaction of  
(1)(b) [proposed continuing  
rule R 339.16001 education.  
proposed rule  
R 339.16001  
(1)(d).  
MCL 24.242 and 24.245  
Agency Report to JCAR-Page 3  
(1)(d)]. One  
teaching an  
engineering  
Removal of the  
compensation  
restriction is  
course that would necessary.  
provide a student  
with continuing  
education credit  
should receive  
credit, even if the  
teacher receives  
compensation for  
teaching. This is  
grossly  
inequitable. How  
an applicant for  
renewal is  
compensated is  
independent from  
whether the  
applicant has  
satisfied  
continuing  
education  
requirements. It  
is proposed that  
the last sentence  
of current rule R  
339.16001(1)(b),  
proposed rule R  
339.16001(1)(d)  
be stricken so that  
the rule is this:  
(b) (d) “Course  
means any  
qualifying  
activity with a  
clear purpose and  
objective that will  
maintain,  
improve, or  
expand the skills  
and knowledge  
relevant to the  
licensee’s area of  
professional  
practice.  
MCL 24.242 and 24.245  
Agency Report to JCAR-Page 4  
13.Date report completed:  
9/8/2020  
MCL 24.242 and 24.245