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STATE OF MICHIGAN

BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION

In the matter on the Commission's

Case No. U-20732

own motion to re-promulgate rules

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required by MCL 484.2202(1)(c)(iv).

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PUBLIC HEARING

Proceedings held via Microsoft Teams in the

above-entitled matter before Sharon L. Feldman,

Administrative Law Judge with MOAHR, for the Michigan

Public Service Commission, Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday,

July 14, 2020, at 9:02 a.m.

APPEARANCES:

MONICA M. STEPHENS,

Assistant Attorneys General

7109 West Saginaw Highway, Floor 3

Lansing, Michigan 48917

On behalf of Michigan Public Service

Commission Staff

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REPORTED BY: Marie T. Schroeder, CSR-2183

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Lansing, Michigan

Tuesday, July 14, 2020

9:02 a.m.

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(Hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)

JUDGE FELDMAN: On the record. Good

morning. This is the date and time set for a public

hearing in Michigan Public Service Commission Case No.

U-20732, entitled: In the matter, on the Commission's

own motion to re-promulgate rules required by MCL

484.2202(1)(c)(iv).

For the record, my name is Sharon

Feldman. I am an Administrative Law Judge with the

Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules.

Also appearing today is Assistant Attorney General

Stephens. Ms. Stephens, would you like to place your

appearance on the record?

MS. STEPHENS: Good morning, your Honor.

Monica Stephens on behalf of MPSC Staff.

JUDGE FELDMAN: Thank you. Let me note

for the record that notice of today's hearing was

published in The Mining Journal, The Grand Rapids Press,

and The Oakland Press, and the docket reflects proof of

publication. As the Commission's May 19, 2020 Order

establishing this proceeding indicated, although this

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prehearing was scheduled as an in-person hearing, all

interested persons were put on notice that they should

monitor this docket prior to the public hearing for any

potential changes in the format of the hearing. And on

July 1, 2020, a notice was posted in this docket

converting the hearing to this video and telephone

format, and providing the video link and call-in number.

And the notice and the proof of service of that notice

are also in the e-docket.

This hearing is legislative in nature.

It is an opportunity for people to comment on the

proposed rules governing the obligation of providers of

basic local exchange service that cease to provide.

Written comments will also be accepted through July 28,

2020.

Ms. Stephens is here, as are certain

Staff members from the Michigan Public Service

Commission. And if anybody here does have any questions

regarding these rules, Ms. Stephens will make sure that

you can get in touch with a Staff member who can answer

your questions.

So without further ado, I know we have

some participants who are just interested in observing

today's proceedings. Let me ask if there is anybody

currently participating, either by phone or video, who

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would like to make a comment?

(Pause. No response.)

All right.

CHARLIE TIDWELL: Charlie Tidwell here.

I'd like to go off the record, please.

(Brief comment off the record discussion.)

JUDGE FELDMAN: I know that this is a

format that is unfamiliar to many, so it's my suggestion

that we pause this proceeding until 9:15 to see if

anybody joins the hearing who wishes to make a comment,

who wasn't able to do so by 9:00 o'clock.

Ms. Stephens, does that sound sensible to

you?

MS. STEPHENS: Yes. That's O.K. with us,

your Honor.

JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. Then that's

what we'll do, and I'll just be sitting here so I can

assist anybody who may be trying to join.

(Off the record from 9:08 to 9:15 a.m.)

JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. Well, my

clock says 9:15. Let me ask one more time if there is

anybody participating, either by video or by phone only,

that would like to make a comment on this rule set?

Don't be shy. (No response.)

All right. Ms. Stephens, can you think

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of anything that we should note for the record before we

adjourn this proceeding?

MS. STEPHENS: No, your Honor.

JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. I want to

thank everybody who attended this morning for your

patience, for your time and attention, and we are

adjourned. Off the record.

MS. STEPHENS: Thank you.

(At 9:16 a.m., the hearing adjourned.)

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C E R T I F I C A T E

I, Marie T. Schroeder, CSR-2183, do

hereby certify that I reported in stenotype the

proceedings held on-line via Microsoft Teams in the

within-entitled matter, that being Case No. U-20732,

before Sharon L. Feldman, Administrative Law Judge with

MOAHR, for the Michigan Public Service Commission,

Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday, July 14, 2020; and do

further certify that the foregoing transcript, consisting

of six (6) pages, is a true and correct transcript of my

stenotype notes.

Digitally signed by MarieT

Schroeder

DN: cn=MarieT Schroeder,

o=Metro Court Reporters Inc, ou,

email=metrostate@sbcglobal.net,

c=US

MarieT

Schroeder

Date: 2020.07.21 21:07:51 -04'00'

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Marie T. Schroeder, CSR-2183

P.O. Box 1313

Walled Lake, Michigan 48390

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Dated: July 17, 2020

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