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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION  
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own motion, to propose revisions to  
4 the rules governing consumer standards  
and billing practices of electric and  
5 natural gas utilities regulated in  
accordance with 1919 PA 419, as amended;  
6 1939 PA 3, as amended; and 1965 PA 380.  
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Case No. U-21150  
Volume No. 1  
PUBLIC HEARING  
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Proceedings held in the above-entitled matter  
before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative Law Judge  
with MOAHR, via Microsoft Teams and at the Michigan  
Public Service Commission, 7109 West Saginaw Highway,  
Lake Michigan Room, Lansing, Michigan, on Thursday,  
December 9, 2021, at 11:00 a.m.  
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APPEARANCES:  
MICHAEL J. ORRIS, (Via Teams)  
Assistant Attorney General  
7109 West Saginaw, Floor 3  
Lansing, Michigan 48917  
On behalf of the Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Thursday, December 9, 2021  
At 11:00 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
JUDGE FELDMAN: Good morning and welcome.  
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We are opening the record for a public hearing in  
Michigan Public Service Commission Case No. U-21150,  
entitled: In the matter, on the Commission's own motion,  
to propose revisions to the rules governing consumer  
standards and billing practices of electric and gas  
utilities regulated in accordance with 1919 PA 419, as  
amended; 1939 PA 3, as amended; and 1965 PA 380.  
This is the date and time designated by  
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the Commission in its November 4, 2021, order for a  
public hearing to solicit comments on the proposed rule  
revisions. This public hearing is being held in person  
at the Commission's Lansing office and as a video  
teleconference hearing. The Commission's address was  
included in the notice of hearing. The information  
needed to participate remotely was also included in the  
notice of hearing, and allows for participation by  
Microsoft Teams link or by phone. The Commission's  
publicly available docket for this case shows that the  
notice of this hearing was published in the following  
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newspapers on November 23, 2021: The Grand Rapids Press,  
The Mining Journal, and The Oakland Press.  
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For the record, my name is Sharon  
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Feldman, I'm an Administrative Law Judge with the  
Michigan office of Administrative Hearings and Rules, and  
my function today is to make sure that everyone who wants  
to make an oral comment on the proposed rules has the  
opportunity do so.  
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Additionally, I'd note that the  
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Commission is accepting written comments on the rules  
through January 6, 2022. Written comments must reach the  
Commission prior to 5:00 p.m. on that day. As specified  
in the notice of hearing, written comments can be sent by  
mail to the Commission's office addressed to the  
Executive Secretary, Case No. U-21150, Michigan Public  
Service Commission, P.O. Box 30221, Lansing, Michigan  
48909, or may be emailed to the Commission's Executive  
Secretary at mpscedockets@michigan.gov. Please reference  
Case No. U-21150 in your email. As a reminder, all  
information submitted to the Commission in this matter  
will become public information available on the  
Commission's website and subject to disclosure.  
I also want to note that Assistant  
Attorney General Mike Orris is participating in this  
hearing this morning. Mr. Orris, would you like to place  
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your appearance on the record.  
MR. ORRIS: Good morning, your Honor.  
Assistant Attorney General Michael Orris appearing on  
behalf of Staff in this matter.  
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JUDGE FELDMAN: Thank you. It's my  
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understanding that should anyone have questions regarding  
the proposed rules, Mr. Orris or Chris Forist, a Michigan  
Public Service Commission Staff member who is attending  
the hearing today, will be able to put that person in  
touch with the Staff member who should be able to answer  
the questions. So at the conclusion of the hearing, if  
you would like to pose any questions to MPSC Staff  
members, you can let me know and I will pass your name  
along to Mr. Orris or to Ms. Forist.  
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We have a court reporter here, and the  
transcript of this hearing, including all comments, will  
be posted to the docket for this case which is available  
on the Commission's website. All written comments will  
also be posted to the -- posted on the website to the  
same docket.  
Let me first ask whether there is anyone  
in this room this morning that wants to make a comment?  
I don't believe there is, but for the record. (No  
response.)  
All right. Let me turn to those of you  
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who are participating remotely by video, is there anybody  
at all who would like to make a comment this morning?  
You can unmute your microphone. And let me know if  
you're on the phone line, I believe it's *6 to unmute. I  
don't want to rush anybody. (No response.)  
All right. Well, thank you all very much  
for attending this morning. As I mentioned, you are free  
to file written comments after we adjourn. If you do  
have any questions and would like to be put in touch with  
Mr. Orris or Ms. Forist, you can say so before I close  
this platform.  
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Thank you again. We are adjourned.  
(Public hearing adjourned at 11:06 a.m.)  
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C E R T I F I C A T E  
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I, Lori Anne Penn (CSR-1315), do hereby  
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certify that I reported in stenotype the proceedings had  
in the above-entitled matter, that being Case No.  
U-21150, before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative  
Law Judge with Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings  
and Rules, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Lansing, Michigan, on  
Thursday, December 9, 2021; and do further certify that  
the foregoing transcript, consisting of Volume 1, pages  
1-6, constitutes a true and correct transcript of my  
stenotype notes.  
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lori.penn@yahoo.com  
December 14, 2021  
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