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·8· ·CRIMINAL JUSTICE HEARING INFORMATION SYSTEMS  
·9· · · · · · · · · PUBLIC HEARING  
10· · · · · ·Thursday, November 19, 2020  
11· · · · Michigan State Police Headquarters  
12· · · · · · · · 7150 Harris Drive  
13· · · · · · Dimondale, Michigan 48821  
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·1· ·Present in person:  
·2· · · · Mr. Steve Beatty  
·3· · · · Mr. Kevin Collins  
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·5· ·Present virtually by Microsoft Teams:  
·6· · · · Mr. Richard Chaffee  
·7· · · · Mr. Wane Aldrich  
·8· · · · Mr. Ryan Mainz  
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10· ·Reported by:  
11· · · · Ms. Shelly M. Nowak, CSR-5976  
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·1· · · · · · · (Hearing began at 1:00 p.m.)  
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·3· · · · · · · · ·P R O C E E D I N G S  
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·5· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Good afternoon everyone.· This  
·6· ·is a public hearing on proposed amendments to  
·7· ·administrative rules titled, "Criminal Justice  
·8· ·Information Systems."· This hearing is conducted on  
·9· ·behalf of the Michigan Department of State Police,  
10· ·pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act of 1969.  
11· ·My name is Steve Beatty.· I am the Regulatory Affairs  
12· ·Officer at the department and will be facilitating the  
13· ·hearing today.  
14· · · · · · ·This hearing is called to order at 1:00  
15· ·p.m., on November 19, 2020, and is taking place at the  
16· ·Michigan State Police Headquarters located at 7150  
17· ·Harris Drive, Dimondale, Michigan, while utilizing  
18· ·appropriate social distancing protocols.· This hearing  
19· ·was published in three newspapers of general  
20· ·circulation, as well as the Michigan Register, issue  
21· ·#20, published on November 15, 2020.  
22· · · · · · ·Additionally, to provide an opportunity for  
23· ·individuals to participate without having to appear in  
24· ·person at the public hearing, the department's public  
25· ·notices provided a web link to enable any interested  
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·1· ·person to participate virtually through a Microsoft  
·2· ·Teams meeting.  
·3· · · · · · ·The department appreciates your patience  
·4· ·regarding the virtual nature of this hearing.· To  
·5· ·ensure that an accurate record can be created and  
·6· ·public comments are heard, we ask that persons  
·7· ·participating remotely, please mute your microphones  
·8· ·when you are not speaking to reduce background noise  
·9· ·and to hear other speakers.  
10· · · · · · ·We will admit individuals as they enter the  
11· ·hearing.· We will call on each individual who has  
12· ·entered a name to determine whether they would like to  
13· ·speak.· If you choose to speak, please state your name  
14· ·and spell your name; indicate whether you are  
15· ·representing a particular organization and identify  
16· ·that organization; and state your email address and  
17· ·mailing address.· If you are called on and do not wish  
18· ·to speak, simply let us know.  
19· · · · · · ·We will then ask whether there are any other  
20· ·individuals in attendance who wish to speak.· This  
21· ·will include those who are attending via conference  
22· ·call or who did not leave a name when entering the  
23· ·hearing, as well as those persons who have appeared in  
24· ·person.· Again, before making comments on the proposed  
25· ·rules, please be sure to state your name and spell  
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·1· ·your name; indicate whether you are representing a  
·2· ·particular organization and identify that  
·3· ·organization; and state your email address and mailing  
·4· ·address.  
·5· · · · · · ·Finally, we will accept any written comments  
·6· ·provided in person during the hearing and we will  
·7· ·review any comments that were entered in the chat  
·8· ·function of this virtual hearing, and enter those  
·9· ·comments into the record, and address anyone who  
10· ·indicated a desire to speak.  
11· · · · · · ·Please be aware that the purpose of this  
12· ·hearing is to receive public comments regarding the  
13· ·proposed rules, and as a result, we will not be  
14· ·responding to any questions.· If you do have a  
15· ·question relating to the proposed rules, please submit  
16· ·your question in writing via email to Kevin Collins.  
17· ·His email address is collinsk@michigan.gov, that is,  
18· ·C-0-L-L-I-N-S-K at michigan.gov. This email address is  
19· ·also listed on the notice for this public hearing.  
20· ·Please also email Kevin Collins if you wish to be  
21· ·emailed a copy of the Regulatory Impact Statement or  
22· ·Draft Rules.  
23· · · · · · ·You may also submit additional written  
24· ·comments by emailing Kevin Collins at  
25· ·collinsk@michigan.gov, or by mail to the address  
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·1· ·provided on the notice for this public hearing.· The  
·2· ·department is accepting written comments until 5:00  
·3· ·p.m., Eastern Time, today, November 19, 2020.  
·4· · · · · · ·We will now begin calling on individuals to  
·5· ·see if they would like to make a public comment.  
·6· · · · · · ·Richard Chaffee has joined us virtually via  
·7· ·Teams.· Mr. Chaffee, do you wish to make a public  
·8· ·comment?  
·9· · · · · · ·MR. CHAFFEE:· No.· I'll be observing only  
10· ·and I do not wish to make a comment.  
11· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Thank you.  
12· · · · · · ·Wane Aldrich, I see you appearing virtually.  
13· ·Do you wish to make a public comment?  
14· · · · · · ·MR. ALDRICH:· No, sir.· I'm just here to  
15· ·observe.· Thank you.  
16· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Thank you.  
17· · · · · · ·And I would note that in the chat function,  
18· ·Mr. Chaffee did post -- wished us a good afternoon and  
19· ·did indicate in the chat function as well that he  
20· ·would be observing only and does not wish to make any  
21· ·comment.  
22· · · · · · ·Ryan Mainz, M-A-I-N-Z, do you wish to make a  
23· ·public comment?  
24· · · · · · ·MR. MAINZ:· Good afternoon.· Negative;  
25· ·observation only.  
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·1· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Thank you.  
·2· · · · · · ·The record should reflect that we are here  
·3· ·at Michigan State Police Headquarters as noticed in  
·4· ·the notice for this hearing and present is myself,  
·5· ·Steve Beatty, and Kevin Collins who is the subject  
·6· ·matter expert on this proposed rule set, as well as  
·7· ·the court reporter.  
·8· · · · · · ·At this point in time, there is nobody else  
·9· ·present in the room and as I'm looking around Teams, I  
10· ·do not see anyone else who has entered or is  
11· ·attempting to enter.· Since there are no people  
12· ·wishing to speak at this time, we will be taking a  
13· ·recess and we'll be back on in approximately 30  
14· ·minutes unless someone shows up sooner.  
15· · · · · · ·The -- while I'll be turning my camera off,  
16· ·the Teams meeting will be on and we will monitor --  
17· ·continue to monitor the Teams to see if anyone shows  
18· ·up.· When we do go back on the record, I will flip my  
19· ·camera on and start the record again at that point in  
20· ·time.  
21· · · · · · ·So anyone wishing to stay during that period  
22· ·certainly can, we'll be monitoring Teams, but we're  
23· ·gonna take a brief recess at this point in time.  
24· ·Thank you very much.· The time right now is 1:06 p.m.  
25· ·Thank you.  
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·1· · · · · · ·(Whereupon, a short recess was taken at  
·2· · · · · · ·1:06 p.m.)  
·3· · · · · · ·(Hearing resumed at 1:36 p.m.)  
·4· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Hello, we're back.· It is now  
·5· ·1:36 p.m.· For the record, I would note that no one  
·6· ·else has joined the meeting virtually.· We received no  
·7· ·additional chat comments.· Nobody else has appeared in  
·8· ·person here at MSP Headquarters and at this point in  
·9· ·time, we have not received any additional written  
10· ·comments.  
11· · · · · · ·So if there are no further comments, I guess  
12· ·for those in attendance if anyone wishes to make a  
13· ·comment at this point in time, I'll give a few second  
14· ·pause here to see if anyone wishes to speak up.  
15· · · · · · ·(Whereupon, a brief pause was taken.)  
16· · · · · · ·MR. BEATTY:· Ryan Mainz has said no thank  
17· ·you.· Richard Chaffee has entered no comment, and I  
18· ·don't believe there are any other comments.· Wane  
19· ·Aldrich has indicated no, no thank you in the chat  
20· ·section as well.  
21· · · · · · ·So at this point, if there are no further  
22· ·comments, I declare the hearing closed.· Any  
23· ·additional comments regarding the proposed rules  
24· ·anyone wishes to share must be submitted to, in  
25· ·writing, to Kevin Collins by email at  
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·1· ·collinsk@michigan.gov or by mail to the department's  
·2· ·address listed on the notice of the public hearing.  
·3· · · · · · ·The record will remain open until today,  
·4· ·November 19, 2020, at 5:00 p.m.· The current time is  
·5· ·1:37 p.m. Thank you for attending and good-bye.  
·6· · · · · · ·(Hearing concluded at 1:37 p.m.)  
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·1· ·STATE OF MICHIGAN)  
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·3· ·COUNTY OF GRATIOT)  
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·5· · · · I hereby certify that I, SHELLY M. NOWAK, Certified  
·6· ·Stenographic Reporter, and Notary Public, State of  
·7· ·Michigan, do hereby certify that the said proceedings on  
·8· ·November 19, 2020, were taken in machine shorthand by me  
·9· ·and were thereafter reduced to typewritten form consisting  
10· ·of 10 pages herein; that the foregoing is a true transcript  
11· ·of the proceedings had.  
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13· · · · I further certify that I am not employed by, related  
14· ·to, nor of counsel for any of the parties herein, nor  
15· ·otherwise interested in the outcome of this matter.  
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· · · · · · · · · · Shelly M. Nowak, CSR-5976  
20· · · · · · · · · Notary Public for the County of Gratiot  
· · · · · · · · · · Commission Expires:· 10-13-2024  
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