MARIHUANA REGULATORY AGENCY  
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September 27, 2021  
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MARIHUANA REGULATORY AGENCY PUBLIC HEARING  
September 27, 2021  
STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
MARIHUANA REGULATORY AGENCY  
PUBLIC HEARING  
525 West Ottawa Street, Lansing, Michigan  
Monday, September 27, 2021, 9:30 a.m.  
APPEARANCES:  
For the Department of MS. JESSICA S. FOX (P70937)  
Licensing and  
Regulatory Affairs:  
MRA/LARA - State of Michigan  
2407 North Grand River Avenue  
Lansing, Michigan 48906  
Also Present:  
RECORDED BY:  
Andrew Brisbo, Executive Director,  
Marijuana Regulatory Agency  
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TABLE OF CONTENTS  
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Statement by Ms. Fox . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3  
Statement by Mr. Brisbo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 3  
Public comment by Tiffany Coleman. . . . . . . . . . . .5,30  
Public comment by W. Michael Webster . . . . . . . . . . . 7  
Public comment by John Fraser. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . 9  
Public comment by Shelly Edgerton. . . . . . . . . . . . .13  
Public comment by Kellen Brandon . . . . . . . . . . . . .20  
Public comment by Robin Schneider. . . . . . . . . . . . .24  
Public comment by Joseph Cranmore. . . . . . . . . . . . .25  
Public comment by Travis Copenhaver. . . . . . . . . . . .26  
Public comment by Hayley Tomich. . . . . . . . . . . . . .29  
Final statement by Mr. Brisbo. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .32  
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Lansing, Michigan  
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Monday, September 27, 2021 - 9:38 a.m.  
MS. FOX: Good morning, everyone. My name is  
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Jessica Fox. And to my left is Director Andrew Brisbo. And  
we will be facilitating the hearing this morning on behalf  
of the Marijuana Regulatory Agency. So this is a public  
hearing on the proposed administrative rules. Now bear with  
me as I list all of these out: marihuana disciplinary  
proceedings 2020-117 LR, marihuana hearings 2020-118 LR,  
marihuana infused products and edible products 2020-119 LR,  
marihuana licensees 2020-120 LR, marihuana licenses 2020-122  
LR, marihuana sale or transfer 2020-123 LR, marihuana  
sampling and testing 2020-124 LR, marihuana employees  
2021-10 LR, and marihuana declaratory rulings 2021-29 LR.  
This hearing is being conducted pursuant to provisions  
required by and with the authority conferred on the  
executive director of the agency, who is authorized to  
promulgate these rules based on section 206 of the MMFLA,  
sections 7 and 8 of MRTMA, section 5 of the Michigan Medical  
Marihuana Act and the Marihuana Tracking Act, along with  
Executive Reorganization order number 2019-2.  
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MR. BRISBO: This hearing is being called to order  
at 9:40 a.m. on September 27th, 2021, at the Williams  
Building, first floor auditorium in Lansing, Michigan. This  
hearing was published in three newspapers of general  
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circulation as well as the Michigan Register published on  
September 1st, 2021. Thank you all for joining us today.  
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Please know we're here to receive your comments on the  
proposed rules. If you are interested in making other types  
of comments to the agency, we do have a public -- our  
quarterly public meeting scheduled Wednesday of this week.  
We would like to limit comments at this hearing to the  
proposed rules. So please keep your comments limited to  
those topics. We have provided an option to join this  
meeting via Zoom webinar for members of the public who will  
be unable to attend in person. Please note that public  
testimony -- testimony will only be available for those  
attending the meeting in person. However, you may submit  
comments in writing until 5:00 p.m. today at MRA-  
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MS. FOX: So if you wish to speak today, please  
make sure that you've filled out a comment card with your  
name and the rule number or the citation that you would like  
to be commenting on today. When you come forward to speak,  
please state your name and the rule number or citation that  
you're going to be commenting on so that this information  
may be transcribed into the hearing report. Particular  
comment is helpful when the staff review your comments in  
the transcript after today. Additionally, please try to  
limit your comments to five minutes. If you do need more  
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time, please consider submitting additional comments by  
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email to the address Director Brisbo just stated and is also  
on the notice. Written comment will be accepted until  
September 27th, 2021 at 5:00 p.m. Please remember the  
public comment today is an opportunity for members of the  
public to comment, not obtain feedback, engage in  
discussions or dialogue, or receive answers from the agency.  
We're here today to listen to you and your comments on the  
rules. So please be sure when you come to the microphone  
that you state your name and the rule number that you will  
be commenting on. Thank you.  
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MR. HARNS: You'll need to speak really close to  
the microphone. And we'll be cleaning them between uses,  
so --  
MS. FOX: Okay. The first person I have for  
public comment is Tiffany Coleman from Carbidex/Franklin  
Fields of Michigan ASA.  
COMMENTS  
BY MS. COLEMAN:  
MS. COLEMAN: Can you hear me? More louder? More  
closer? I have -- I have comments on three of the rules.  
The first one is for -- on 2020-124 LR 420.306 new  
subsection 3, which is on Aspergillus. I wanted to indicate  
that Aspergillus can be remediated, although the rule says  
that it shall not, that there -- a majority of operators in  
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the state are remediating prior to testing, that the threat  
posed by Aspergillus is specific to mycotoxins that can be  
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created that are, you know, pathogenic and can cause harm.  
And therefore it should not be that Aspergillus testing  
would be what forces things to not be remediated. But  
mycotoxin testing specific to those pathogens that are  
created by the Aspergillus. And that should -- the rule  
should be updated to indicate that, especially since  
currently remediation is occurring prior to testing in the  
state, which would mean that those mycotoxins would still be  
present in the plant and able to harm people without -- and  
passing test results. The next section is from 2020-120 LR,  
420.11 (a) on agreements. This is a new section which  
appears to be aligned with a previously published bulletin.  
However, it -- I had noted that the definition of profits  
has not been provided anywhere in the document. So it is  
insufficient to allow for accounting clarity. Is it profit  
as revenue? Profits after losses accrued profit only on  
specific certain items as defined in an agreement, profits  
for all things at a -- a single entity or all things that a  
group of entities that would be aligned. And also this  
would completely preclude non-profits or zero profit  
companies from being able to have agreements in the space,  
which seems inappropriate and limiting for companies that  
are already operating in that way. Thank you. And the last  
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one from 2020-124 LR, it’s 420.305 (9)©, the new calculation  
of total THC. I wanted to make sure that the agency was  
aware that from a consumer standpoint as well as from a  
producer's standpoint, there is a significant difference  
between the different structural isomers of THC and that  
labeling something to say that a total THC quantity includes  
all of D-8, D-7, D-10, D-11 and D-9, given that they have  
different petitional efficacy would be inappropriate. And  
as such, they should be labeled and reported separately both  
on the report and on labels that are put into commerce.  
Thank you.  
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MS. FOX: Next for public comment, W. Michael  
Webster from Exspiravit.  
COMMENTS  
BY MR. WEBSTER:  
MR. WEBSTER: Good morning. My name is Michael  
Webster. I am here representing my social equity operation,  
Exspiravit, LLC, as well as members of the social equity  
space. I would like to thank Director Brisbo, Ms. Fox, and  
esteemed members of the cannabis community for the  
opportunity to speak. I stand in support of rule set  
2020-121 LR with the exception -- I would like to raise the  
objection to the removal of the extraction piece for the  
micro -- sorry -- class A microbusiness license. I believe  
this addition by subtraction policy will be harmful to  
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microgrowers -- microoperators like myself. And I think  
that particular attention should be paid to the social  
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equity space. Those of us in the social equity space endure  
significant hurdles in trying to enter into the sector. And  
removing opportunities to bring products to market is  
harmful to our business model. I believe that should be  
revisited and reconsidered and that the extraction component  
should be included in the microlicense, the class A  
microlicense. I would also like to, on behalf of my  
accelerated -- my incubator program, the Detroit Cannabis  
Project, make mention of the continued struggles faced by  
members of the social equity space. I think what's going on  
in Detroit -- while I understand the jurisdictional  
separation, I think what's going on in Detroit with regard  
to legacy is a travesty. I think many of Black and Brown  
people, poor white people, other marginalized groups  
continue to endure significant barriers entering into the  
sector. Many of us have leveraged all of our financial  
resources, relationships to enter into the space only to be  
met by significant hurdle. So while I -- again I understand  
the jurisdictional separation, I think that something should  
be done. I think the pecking order, for lack of a better  
term, the city answering -- I'm sorry -- the state answering  
to the city is absurd. And while the respect for the  
jurisdictional division should remain, I think that other  
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resources should be deployed, other allotments should be  
made, other concessions should be made for those Detroit  
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legacy operators who are currently in limbo. And again I  
understand I'm getting a little bit off track. But I'm  
speaking with regard to that microgrow class A license,  
which is attainable for many of us and represents a bright  
spot. But when you start doing addition by subtraction and  
removing components of it that are so promising particularly  
for someone like myself who is an extraction artist, I think  
that is problematic and should be reconsidered. I thank you  
for the opportunity to speak. And have a good day.  
MS. FOX: Next, John Fraser with the State Bar of  
Michigan's Cannabis law section.  
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COMMENTS  
BY MR. FRASER:  
MR. FRASER: Good morning. Can you hear me okay?  
MS. FOX: (Nodding head in affirmative)  
MR. FRASER: Okay. Excellent. I've got an  
outdoor voice anyway for everybody who's heard me talk  
before. So I have to give a disclaimer because the State  
Bar always has rules. So the cannabis law section of the  
State Bar of Michigan is not the State Bar of Michigan, but  
it's a section whose membership is voluntary. The position  
expressed in my comments is that of the cannabis law section  
only. And the State Bar of Michigan has no position on  
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these comments. The cannabis law section has approximately  
911 members as of the date of these comments. And the  
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special committee on administrative rules of the cannabis  
law section consists of -- of six members of the cannabis  
law section. We met numerous times and all members of the  
special committee voted in favor of the positions contained  
in -- in these comments. So sorry for the disclaimer.  
Rules are rules, though. So the committee had the  
opportunity to review the proposed rules. We had specific  
concerns in particular about a couple of the rules. And  
we'll be submitting written comments. But I did want to  
take the opportunity to speak here to let the agency know  
that we'll be submitting written comments and to voice  
concerns about a couple of the proposed rule sets that the  
special committee thought were of particular importance.  
One is not a particular rule that we could identify because  
it's been really a consistent practice of the agency. As  
lawyers, as folks working in the industry, we all very much  
appreciate when the agency puts out written guidance and  
helps clarify the agency's position on things. Myself, the  
other members of the committee, other members of the  
cannabis law section all have expressed concerns  
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historically about the agency's issuance of written guidance  
that has the force of law that is not done through the --  
the rule-making process required by the Administrative  
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Procedures Act. We would ask the agency revisit the various  
areas of the written rule set where it contemplates the  
agency filling in gaps through the issuance or subsequent  
written guidance. Most of those have happened by way of  
bulletins. And in particular this -- this happens with the  
safety compliance facility testing standards. We would ask  
that those standards just be incorporated directly into the  
administrative rule sets and provide clarity and consistency  
for the industry. If an emergency arises, like what  
happened with the vitamin E acetate, the agency retains the  
authority other issue an emergency rule that's directly  
responsive to any emergent threats to public health and  
safety. We would also like to address -- the members of the  
committee and -- and the members of the section have  
expressed some concerns about proposed rule 420.105(a) with  
respect to the class A microbusiness license insofar as that  
license allows that particular licensee to buy mature plants  
from any member of the public who's at least 21 years of  
age. There is no lawful authority for those types of  
transactions in the MRTMA. The MRTMA does not allow an  
adult over the age of 21 to sell plants lawfully to any  
other person. So that kind of contemplates encouraging  
criminal activity. And similarly, the MMMA only allows  
transfers from a caregiver to his or her patients, so to  
sell mature plants to a state licensee again doesn't seem  
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like there's legal authority for that to be done lawfully in  
accordance with the Acts. The other concerns that were  
expressed by members with regards to that practice is that  
if mature plants can be directly imported into the licensed  
marketplace, it disincentivizes licensees from having to  
cultivate their own plants because if they can source in  
mature plants from other sources, they could just buy mature  
plants that are immediately ready for harvest, harvest them  
and then ship the product off for lab testing. One final  
comment was with respect to rule 420.8 sub 2(b) sub 8 with  
respect to contactless and limited contact transactions. We  
all applaud the agency's decision to be explicit in allowing  
contactless and limited contact transactions. COVID has  
shown that curbside is effective. It's something that  
customers want. It's something that licensees can do  
responsibly. I think the agency is also contemplating  
allowing drive-through transactions with this rule. I would  
ask if that is the agency's decision to be explicit in  
allowing drive-through. Having worked with a number of  
municipal officials, because drive-through transactions were  
previously prohibited, anything short of an explicit  
authorization by the agency of drive-through transactions,  
it's probably going to be met with reluctance at the  
municipal level by thinking that the status quo of  
prohibiting drive-through is still in place even though the  
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rule doesn't necessarily say that. So I -- I see I'm out of  
time. We'll submit our comments in writing here later  
today. Thank you very much.  
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MS. FOX: Okay. Next for public comment, Shelly  
Edgerton with MCMA.  
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COMMENTS  
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BY MS. EDGERTON:  
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MS. EDGERTON: Can you hear me?  
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MS. FOX: (Nodding head in affirmative)  
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MS. EDGERTON: Okay. My name is Shelly Edgerton.  
I'm board chair for the MCMA. And I appreciate the  
opportunity to be here to comment on the whole entire rule  
set. We will be providing written comments. So in  
particular, quite a substantial amount of pages. So I'm not  
going to go through everything. Some of this will be a  
little redundant as well from the State Bar section. But I  
certainly appreciate the staff and everyone's input into  
this. It's -- I know having been in your shoes, it's a --  
it's a timely venture. So I really want to praise, you  
know, MRA for all the work that they've done and -- and  
certainly appreciate the big effort on safety and patient  
safety for testing. Mirroring what the law section said, we  
obviously are concerned about the continued use of bulletins  
and guidance. I get it from where we were originally from  
the program starting, you had to have it. This industry  
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demanded answers quickly and -- and we had to, you know,  
almost build the airplane while we were building the  
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program. So it is very important to use those. However, I  
think the continued use and implication in the rules is  
problematic. I mean, we've had course cases as late as six  
months ago talking about the decision making of agencies.  
With rules -- using rules, guidelines and bulletins  
within -- within their acts. So I do think it's important  
that you continue to start to look at this and maybe address  
it. Take a little time, maybe incorporate some of those  
bulletins totally within the rules. You certainly have  
emergency rule making authority, so if you need something  
similar to the vitamin acetate, you could do something very  
quickly. And certainly we could always work with you and  
the legislature to make sure that you have quick authority  
to do something. Moving on, obviously this is a great  
opportunity to continue clean up a lot of the definitional  
points in the rule set for 121, beginning with the whole  
issue of who is an applicant and the indirect -- indirect  
applicant, whether that triggers something for them to  
actually fill out an application. I know the agency  
probably has struggled at -- with this from the get-go. But  
I think there's the ability here to really start to kind of  
narrow the limitations, whether it's the -- through the  
money lender, through the landlord. I mean, you're putting  
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out examples and we know that from practice of applicants  
that people are able to -- the agency is able to determine  
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what is an indirect interest. I think it's something you  
struggle with, but I think enunciating that within the rules  
is probably a good place to go. Rule 420.110(d)(D), you  
talking about limited access and restricted areas and  
apparently there's still some overlap. We would like to see  
the potential -- what's really happening in the  
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manufacturing space. And that is to recognize that there  
are common shared spaces for processors and growers and how  
that looks from maybe a planning stage or a build out stage.  
And what can we do -- what can we do or what can be done I  
guess to effectuate that kind of shared common space  
that's -- probably happens in every manufacturing place.  
Appreciate the cleanup for municipal attestations. We  
know -- we all know and suffer from that so that's  
definitely an issue. We would like to see some  
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clarification on what are regulatory programs -- sorry --  
employees. I think -- I think from a common sense  
standpoint, I think there's a lot of regulatory persons that  
are out there. But is that meaning, like, the Mackinac  
Bridge Authority? I mean, we start to exclude further out.  
And I know there's legislation with Representative Calley to  
kind of clarify some of this, but maybe taking a little bit  
deeper dive on what employees would be impacted from a  
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regulatory standpoint. Again, rule 420.6(2)(h), maybe take  
another stab at the whole definition of the five license --  
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the five adult class use licenses, maybe with the definition  
of marijuana grower or is it marijuana grower in the  
license? You seem to struggle in terms of the excess grow  
licenses. And -- and honestly, I think even, Andrew, you  
mentioned out looking at the marketplace to see if there's  
even the need for prorating the -- what the medical licenses  
are compared to the AU licenses for the excess grow.  
Because we know people are purchasing medical licenses only  
in order to get the grow licenses. Certainly applaud the  
agency's reduction or time frame for stale applicants. I  
think that's a great administrative move, so I think that's  
really, really there. Reiterating what John said on the  
contact list, I think it's -- I think it's necessary in rule  
420.8 to specify for locals the drive-through. And I think  
even if there's other avenues that the industry is looking  
at for contactless reach, lockers, other things, maybe those  
things should already be spelled out and -- and moved  
forward. So I would appreciate that. Just a clarification,  
rule 420.14, there's still this dichotomy between calendar  
days and business days. I think going through the rules we  
just need to be consistent in terms of what happens with  
those. We are opposed to the -- the new license, the class  
A microbusiness. I think John laid the case out very well  
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in terms of the ability to disrupt the marketplace and how  
it stands. I think if we're looking to address issues of  
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social equity, which they -- I believe this was supposed to  
be based upon -- and maybe it's the processing side of that.  
Maybe there's another avenue to address the processing  
extraction side for microbusinesses rather than creating a  
whole ‘nother class. I do think John raises a good point  
about the illegality of the -- the two acts, MRTMA and MMMA  
and how this is structured right now. So re-emphasize that,  
that we oppose that. I think the agency under rule 420.20  
is definitely looking at the whole financial statement  
issue, the mountains of work and documents required,  
certainly want to be able to take a time line perspective of  
what that looks and really what's practice in the -- in the  
manufacturing and industry. I think that's definitely an  
area that is very costly to any -- any licensee within  
the -- within the industry. In terms of rule 2020-120,  
licensees rule set, we certainly have some issues. I think  
just clarification on the gross profit. I think the  
gentleman here raised the issue or someone raised the issue  
on gross profits, net profits. What does that mean? Is  
it gross minus losses? Is it net profit? So I think it  
would behoove the agency to maybe take another look at that  
to see if there's not some clarification that could do to  
provide that greater ability to go there. I'm not going to  
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time line if you are going to require that information be  
retained by the -- by the retailer what's a time line for  
that if it -- if it even goes there and (inaudible). We  
applaud the ability for analytics to be utilized in a co-  
location and that being spelled out. So we do appreciate  
that. There is an issue on -- I don't want to go -- that's  
going to be too deep. Let's see. Let's go through some of  
these because we are going to provide these, so -- in detail  
with the rule set there so you won't have to – I do  
appreciate the placing the standards for licensing  
agreements in the rules and recognizing what those  
management (inaudible). But again that goes back to  
somewhat of the definitions of gross profits and that in  
terms of controlling those licensing agreements and the  
information you're trying to obtain out of there. And  
that's in rule 421.12(a). Here is the other question, and I  
know this has always been a struggle with Bureau of Fire  
Services in terms of the NFPA. But in rule 4- -- 420.28,  
Michigan is perhaps maybe the only state in the nation that  
talks about grow facilities as industrial uses versus  
manufacturing uses, which can make a big difference. And I  
don't know -- I would just ask that the agency work with BFS  
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to see if there's not some changes that can be made in terms  
of that construction code that they're using to set the  
plans and everything for there. So I know that they're  
undergoing those changes, and I don't know if in their 2021  
version they've actually changed it. So it's no longer  
industrial use, but recognized as a cannabis manufacturing  
use because that sets out a whole different framework for  
build outs. In 420.214, we would like to see that common  
ownership be more broadly defined so that you could make  
transfers among subsidiaries. As -- as you guys know and I  
think everybody in the industry knows, you know, there's a  
multitude of LLC's and businesses that are part of a parent  
co. And without changing the names of each and every one to  
reflect the same similar name, it is probably better to at  
least recognize the subsidiaries and so you're able to  
effectuate change transfers in between those -- those. That  
probably could be clarified more. And we hope that that  
would be there. We would also recommend in 420.214(b) that  
the term adverse reaction be defined. It's pretty  
subjective right now. And what -- because that triggers  
reporting mandates, and so we need to have a better  
definition of what an adverse reaction would be. Same way  
with it -- the same in terms of a defective product, it's  
kind of broad. Let's see. I don’t’ want to take all the  
time. And finally I think we do appreciate the issue or  
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the -- the MRA taking and -- and offering the declaratory  
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ruling set. We think that's a positive step for industry to  
be able to submit a specific set of questions and ask for a  
specific answer. What we do hope, though, is that that  
doesn't -- that doesn't prohibit, you know, the -- the  
customer give and take that we have with questions and  
everything with -- with that. And that's in rule set 2021-  
29. We're hoping that the agency will continue with that  
open dialogue that -- that everybody has insured right now  
with -- with staff. So -- and that the declaratory ruling  
doesn't supplant that. Other than that, we -- we have a  
bunch and we'll be submitting those by 5:00 o'clock today so  
you'll be able to get all of those. Thank you so much.  
MS. FOX: Next, Kellen Brandon.  
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BY KELLEN BRANDON:  
MR. BRANDON: Good morning. My name is Kellen  
Brandon and I am a resident of Ingham County. And I am here  
today in support of the language creating a new class A  
marijuana microbusiness license rule set 2020-120 LR. I am  
very excited about the rules as adopted. And I'm also  
requesting that you implement the section of the rules  
proposal without any alterations to the language. As a  
current business owner currently focused in the publishing  
industry, we specifically develop literature and events  
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focused on facilitating cultures that can better recognize  
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for success within the culture. This rule clearly checks  
those boxes and mirrors that example before the marijuana  
industry. It provides an opportunity to change the  
narrative around stigma within the marijuana industry as  
well as providing opportunities toward success via business  
ownership for people of color like myself. It is well  
researched and factual that, in large, people of color have  
been left behind when it comes to ownership opportunities  
within this industry. By keeping this language as is,  
Michigan has the ability to lead the way and set ourselves  
apart by providing an example of how to close gaps of equity  
and opportunity in our state. Our community members of  
color as well as all others within our community of the  
marginalized many times have the skills to succeed, but lack  
the capital to get started. By adapting this rule as is, we  
will change that, starting with my own opportunity as a  
local Lansing area business owner within the industry. This  
is greatly about opportunity and leveling the playing field.  
Again, please consider. Thank you.  
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MS. SCHNEIDER: The Michigan Cannabis Industry  
Association is the leading voice for Michigan's legal  
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cannabis businesses. The association advocates for  
responsible and successful medical and adult use cannabis  
industry by promoting sensible laws and regulations and  
industry best practices among members. We have submitted  
lengthy comment already but due to the time constraints, I'm  
just going to focus on the issues that were ranked as most  
important to our members. Proposed rules 420.802(7) and  
420.801(I), 420.801(j); the association opposes these  
notifications requirements which when strictly construed are  
unreasonably impractical. Moreover the term management or  
other agreement excludes -- is overbroad and cuts against  
the agency's proposed definition of employee, which excludes  
trade or professional services. At a minimum, if the agency  
persists with its notification requirements with respect to  
management agreements, we respectfully request that the  
agency consider revising the definition of management  
agreement to mean any contract between a licensee and other  
party for the provision of management services that allows  
other parties to exercise control over or participate in the  
management of the license. Such definition would be -- more  
fairly mirror the statutory term managerial employee under  
MCL 333.2710(2)©. Next, addressing amendments to portions  
of rule 420.701 through 420.706 to clarify and/or strengthen  
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the MRA's hearing processes. The MICA supports without  
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rules 420.103(3) and 420.104(4) deletes language authorizing  
marijuana processors and retailers respectively with two or  
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inventory between licensed establishments owned by the  
licensee. The association opposes this change for reason  
that such transfers between license locations promote  
flexibility and help prevent product waste. This change may  
also cause financial harm to our members. Proposed rule  
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seeks to require all licensing agreements and management  
agreements of marijuana to be submitted to the MRA for  
review. The MICIA opposes these new filing and approval  
requirements and submits that the agency appears to lack  
statutory and/or rule making authority for this expansion of  
government regulation. We believe this is overbroad and  
cuts against the agency's proposed definition of employee,  
which -- I've already covered that one. Okay. Moving  
along. Proposed rule 420.43 deletes language providing that  
each applicant shall disclose all shareholders holding a  
direct or indirect interest of greater than 5 percent.  
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over a 2.5 percent or greater ownership interest. The MRCA  
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jeopardize licensee funding, is unreasonably impractical and  
will, most importantly, retroactively impair existing  
contracts. Proposed rule 426.6, the MICA acknowledges that  
this language tracks and then expands on the language  
provided in MCL 333.2740(9). Nonetheless, the MICA opposes  
this language for the reason that it may be legally  
incorrect where a licensee has been issued -- issued  
substantial investments made and the state law only  
authorizes license revocation for this cause. Regardless of  
whether the MRA's assertions are legally correct, it is  
patently unfair to deny the existence of a property right  
where substantial investments are made based on licensure  
and such licensees may only be revoked for good cause. Is  
that my timer?  
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MS. FOX: Yes, ma'am.  
MS. SCHNEIDER: All right. I'm going to give one  
more. And you guys already have all of this (indicating).  
Finally our members are requesting that their employees have  
more access to water regularly in common areas throughout  
their facilities rather than just in the break room to help  
prevent dehydration. We appreciate the opportunity to  
participate and thank you to the agency for making Michigan  
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a national leader in the cannabis industry.  
MR. HARNS: When it's your turn to speak, if you  
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away, that way everybody on the screen and on the webinar  
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MR. CRANMORE: Hi, my name is Joseph Cranmore.  
And I'll be short. I want to echo what this (indicating)  
gentleman said about the -- the class A microbusiness, I  
believe it's 421.05(a) talking about the changes. The  
additional plant count is fantastic. It makes it a little  
more sustainable. But our entire business model is built on  
everything -- you know, seed to shelf everything coming from  
one place, cared for by hand, you know. Essentially taking  
away the processing piece of that would then put us  
in direct competition with the larger businesses who are  
essentially then selling the same products but probably at  
a -- at a higher cost due to the fact that we're a much  
smaller business and we're not purchasing as much. So  
that -- again, addition by subtraction, increasing the cost  
of the license for the class A microbusiness. And then  
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through the -- the processing licensing is just -- I think  
again it puts that out of reach for social equity  
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applicants. I am one myself. So I just -- again, just want  
to make sure that somebody's up here saying that this is not  
necessarily helping. It's almost like that commercial, you  
know, the -- "You got to be quicker than that," the  
insurance commercial where they hold the dollar out. That's  
great, but we're -- again, we're kind of trying to help by  
pulling something out of -- out of reach. So that's really  
all I have. If this is going to replace the current  
microbusiness license, I think that's a terrible idea. If  
it's in addition to, then I think we could do some tweaking  
to make that ideal for everyone. But again if it's -- if  
it's going to replace the current microbusiness license with  
the $8,000 cost, I think you're -- we're shooting a lot of  
people before they even get started. So -- and that's all I  
have to say. Thank you.  
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apologize. I cannot read who you are representing.  
MR. JOHNSON: I didn't have anything.  
MS. FOX: Okay. Thank you. Next, then, Travis  
Copenhaver.  
COMMENTS  
BY MR. COPENHAVER:  
MR. COPENHAVER: Thank you, good morning; Travis  
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Copenhaver. I just have some -- two pretty specific  
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comments, and then I will provide more details to -- written  
response by the end of the day. I think the single most  
frustrating administrative rule we've had to deal with at  
least in my practice over the last few years has been the  
definition of applicant. It's been touched on by a few  
speakers before me are. I would encourage -- I think if you  
actually go and see if it's -- at least 420.1 -- 1(c)(1),  
but it's -- it's used in several rules as well. I would  
encourage the -- the MRA to consider perhaps breaking that  
definition down by corporate form to be more specific about  
what they are actually intending to capture with phrases  
like "exercise control and participate in the management  
thereof." It becomes very frustrating from a applicant  
perspective when we're preparing things like their  
qualification is trying to interpret what those phrases  
mean. I think they would be appropriate for definitions of  
their own. It might be more easy to be more nuanced with  
that if you actually kind of break it down between LLC and  
corporation, trust, et cetera. Additionally, I think in  
rule 420.4, we talk about the disclosure thresholds and  
there's some new language in there about having a 2 and a  
half percent or 5 percent. Two comments there. I would  
encourage -- one, I think a 5 percent threshold on direct or  
indirect ownership is very appropriate when you actually try  
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that if you are to come up with some thresholds, they should  
be equally applied regardless of corporate form. I know  
that we have some discussion at 2 and a half percent, 5  
percent. I think the 5 percent threshold on that disclosure  
for both medical and adult use would be very appropriate.  
That would be my suggestion to you as you move forward.  
That would prevent some significant burden, some disclosure  
requirements for a lot of corporations and -- and  
organizations that are out there attempting to participate  
in Michigan. It would save a significant amount of work for  
the applicants as well as for the agency to determine who  
those individuals are. And if there are anyone who have  
insignificant ownership that would otherwise be  
participating in management, it would be easier to capture  
those organizations or individuals through the management  
triggers of your definition such as the definition of  
applicant. There are several other comments I'll make in  
writing I would like to share as well. But thank you for  
your time. I really appreciate it.  
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is it 10? -- Inc.  
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proposed rule change 420.303 subsection 6 in which this  
proposed rule would allow processors to transfer untested  
fresh frozen material to another processor, either adult use  
or medical. Representing a processor now, we've run into  
this issue in the past where we are only able to receive the  
fresh frozen transfer from a cultivator. And so we wanted  
to voice our support for this rule. And then to be able to  
transfer the fresh frozen product to another processor and  
then have it tested in its final form when it's extracted  
out of a concentrate. Thank you.  
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make public comment? If so, please submit your public  
comment card. Okay. So at this time, what we're going to  
do is take a short recess in that no one else has public  
comment. We will reconvene at 11:00 a.m.  
(Off the record)  
MS. FOX: Good morning, everyone. It's 11:00 a.m.  
And we're going to go ahead and call the hearing back to  
order. Again, if you would like to make public comments,  
please make sure that you've filled out your comment card  
and that you have provided it. Okay. So I have a comment  
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first I would like to show support for the change to  
420.207(a) specific to contactless curbside delivery  
options. So thanks for putting that in. It looks great.  
You guys are awesome. I would also like to show support for  
the expansion of research and development license for our  
universities and whatnot and 420.2(1)(e), that is near and  
dear to my heart for research. And it is very, very  
important for our industry as a whole. And now we'll have a  
means of allowing that to happen in a more legal space. So  
thank you. In addition, I would like to ask that all  
license types be treated uniformly. And it appears that  
with 420.23(11) that the largest license holders will no  
longer be charged for application fees for their excess  
growers licenses. It seems like that would no longer be  
treating all license types fairly since now they get to  
apply for free, I guess. I mean, only if you have, you  
know, seven licenses do you get this opportunity. Okay.  
And then for 2021-10 LR on employees, it appears that you  
guys have expanded the use of 21 CMR part 117, which is, you  
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I do support these regulations. However, I would also like  
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the FDA of these things is incredibly difficult. And one  
would think that it would also be incredibly difficult for  
compliance officers and the like in the MRA to be able to be  
able to uniformly monitor and enforce across all companies.  
It also appears that this is a significant change given that  
there was no specificity on the types of employees that are  
impacted by this. It was broadly safe for all employees. I  
believe currently it's only for employees that work at  
edible and infused product manufacturers. I may be  
misunderstanding the law. And lastly, in 2020-122 LR, there  
is an addition of an SOP section, which I greatly support  
but also again acknowledge the difficulty in monitoring and  
enforcing the existence of this program. I know that in  
other regulatory industries, this is one of the hardest  
things. And so it may be appropriate to provide some  
additional guidelines for what kind of SOP's, minimums and  
also the kind of content that you're expecting to see to  
make that process a little more seamless for those of us  
that will be trying to comply with your rules. Thank you  
for your time.  
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record. It is 1:03 p.m. And we are back for the public  
hearing on the proposed administrative rules. At this time,  
is there anyone who would like to submit public comment on  
the administrative rules? If so, please submit your public  
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declare the hearing closed. Any additional comments  
regarding the proposed rules may be shared in writing to  
MRA-legal@michigan.gov. Written testimony on the rules must  
be received by September 27th, 2021 at 5:00 p.m. The  
current time is 1:04 p.m. And we are adjourned.  
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