MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF ATORNEY  
GENERAL FINANCIAL CRIMES DIVISION,  
PUBLIC HEARING, FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION  
PREVENTION ACT  
July 7, 2021  
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MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF ATORNEY GENERAL FINANCIAL CRIMES DIVISION, PUBLIC HEARING, FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION PREVENTION ACT  
July 7, 2021  
STATE OF MICHIGAN  
MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF ATTORNEY GENERAL  
FINANCIAL CRIMES DIVISION  
PUBLIC HEARING  
FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION PREVENTION ACT  
525 West Ottawa Street, Lansing, Michigan  
Wednesday, July 7, 2021, 1:00 p.m.  
APPEARANCES:  
For the Department of MS. KRISTEN ELIZABETH STINEDURF (P72039)  
Attorney General:  
Assistant Attorney General  
Department of Attorney General  
525 West Ottawa Street  
PO Box 30755  
Lansing, Michigan 48933  
(517) 335-7560  
Also Present:  
RECORDED BY:  
Bethany McCune  
Marcy A. Klingshirn, CER 6924  
Certified Electronic Recorder  
Network Reporting Corporation  
Firm Registration Number 8151  
1-800-632-2720  
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MICHIGAN DEPARTMENT OF ATORNEY GENERAL FINANCIAL CRIMES DIVISION, PUBLIC HEARING, FINANCIAL EXPLOITATION PREVENTION ACT  
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Wednesday, July 7, 2021 - 1:01 p.m.  
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MS. STINEDURF: Good afternoon. This is a public  
hearing on new administrative rules being promulgated under  
authority conferred on the Department of Attorney General by  
section 5 of the Financial Exploitation Prevention Act, MCL  
487.2085. This hearing is being conducted under the  
provisions of the Administrative Procedures Act, MCL 24.201  
to 24.328.  
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This hearing is being called to order at 1:00  
p.m., on July 7th, 2021, at the offices of the Department of  
Attorney General, Williams Building, in Lansing, Michigan.  
The notice of this hearing was published in four newspapers  
of general circulation including one in the Upper Peninsula,  
as well as the Michigan Register, Issue #11, published on  
July 1st, 2021.  
My name is Kristen Stinedurf, and I will be  
facilitating the hearing today.  
Please know we are here today to receive your  
comments on the new set of administrative rules. If you  
wish to speak, please make sure you have signed in and  
indicated your willingness to speak. We will call on  
speakers in the order in which names are listed on the  
sign-in sheets. When you come forward to speak, please  
identify yourself with your name, the organization you  
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represent, and both your mailing and e-mail address so that  
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this information may be part of the hearing report. If you  
have additional comments to submit in writing, you may leave  
them at the registration desk or submit them electronically  
to our department no later than 5:00 p.m. today. Our e-mail  
address is AG-FEPA-Rules@michigan.gov.  
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individuals present who wish to speak at this time so we  
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MS. STINEDURF: Are there any other individuals  
who wish to speak at this time? If there are no further  
comments, I hereby declare the hearing closed. Any  
additional comments regarding the proposed rules that you  
may wish to share must be submitted in writing to:  
AG-FEPA-Rules@michigan.gov. The record will remain open  
until today at 5:00 p.m. The current time is 3:01 p.m.  
Thank you for coming.  
(Off the record)  
MS. STINEDURF: For the record, no individuals  
attended the hearing that was conducted this afternoon, and  
that is in reference to the hearing that was called to order  
at 1:00 p.m. today, July 7th, on the proposed rules set  
pertaining to the Financial Exploitation Prevention Act.  
(Proceedings concluded at 3:01 p.m.)  
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