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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
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FRIDAY, JUNE 17, 2022  
AT ABOUT 9:00 A.M.  
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G. MENNEN WILLIAMS BUILDING AUDITORIUM  
525 W. OTTAWA STREET  
LANSING, MICHIGAN  
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RE: Genetic Counseling - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2021-043 LR)  
Medicine - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2021-044 LR)  
Osteopathic Medicine and Surgery - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2021-054 LR)  
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HEARING FACILITATOR:  
WESTON MacINTOSH  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
611 W. Ottawa Street  
Lansing, Michigan 48909  
22 ALSO PRESENT: Stephanie Wysack  
23 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
33231 Grand River Avenue  
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Farmington, Michigan 48336  
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I N D E X  
2 Opening Statement - Weston MacIntosh  
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4 COMMENTS:  
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5 Christoher Salazar-Fields  
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7 Closing Statement - Weston MacIntosh  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Friday, June 17, 2022  
At 9:02 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
MR. MacINTOSH: Good morning. My name is  
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Weston MacIntosh, and I'm a Departmental Specialist for  
the Bureau of Professional Licensing in the Department of  
Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, and I will be  
conducting the hearing today.  
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This is public hearing on proposed  
administrative rules entitled "Genetic Counseling -  
General Rules", "Medicine - General Rules", and  
"Osteopathic Medicine and Surgery - General Rules". We  
are conducting this hearing under the authority of the  
Administrative Procedures Act, Public Act 306 of 1969, on  
be behalf of the Department of Licensing and Regulatory  
Affairs, Bureau of Professional Licensing.  
We are calling this hearing to order at  
9:00 o'clock a.m. on June 17, 2022, at the G. Mennen  
Williams Building Auditorium at 525 West Ottawa Street in  
Lansing, Michigan. Publication of the notice of public  
hearing was in three newspapers of general circulation,  
including the Grand Rapids Press on May 19, 2022, the  
Flint Journal on May 22, 2022, the Mining Journal on May  
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27, 2022, as well as the Michigan Register, Issue #10,  
published on June 15, 2022.  
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We are here today to receive your  
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comments on proposed rules. If you wish to speak, please  
make sure you have signed in and said that you wish to  
speak. You may use the cards provided in the lobby for  
this purposes. I will organize the cards by rule set so  
that the comments for that profession are in a group  
together in the transcript. If you would like to testify  
and have not signed in, please do so now. For those of  
you who do not wish to sign in with a card, you may speak  
at the microphone once we have exhausted the stack of  
cards that you give to me.  
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If you have comments, please make sure  
that they relate directly to the proposed rules. If you  
have questions about the rules, please include your  
questions as part of your testimony for the Department's  
review. If you have suggested changes to the proposed  
rules, please include the specific reasons why the  
changes would be in the public interest.  
For the record, when you testify, please  
give us your name by spelling your name and the  
organization, if any, that you may be speaking for today.  
This will help the Department prepare the hearing record  
that will go before the Boards. You can give written  
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statements directly to me at the table. The Department  
will also accept written statements emailed or postmarked  
until 5:00 o'clock p.m. today.  
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The Department staff from the Bureau of  
Professional Licensing also includes Stephanie Wysack.  
So the first rule set that we'll take  
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comments for is Genetic Counseling. Do we have anyone  
who wishes to speak on genetic counseling? (No  
response.)  
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Okay. Hearing none, we'll move on. The  
second rule set that we'll take comments for is Medicine.  
Do we have anyone who'd like to speak on Medicine? Do  
you have a card you filled out?  
CHRISTOPHER SALAZAR-FIELDS: Yes, sir.  
MR. MacINTOSH: Okay. Chris  
Salazar-Fields.  
CHRISTOPHER SALAZAR-FIELDS: Yes, sir.  
MR. MacINTOSH: If you'd like to --  
CHRISTOPHER SALAZAR-FIELDS: I believe  
I've already submitted written comments as well, and I  
just kind of came here today to kind of emphasize the  
importance of this matter, because I myself as well as a  
few other residents that started with me in my program  
under the current provisional rules are taking second  
jobs because the M.D.s within the program are not allowed  
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to obtain full licensure as their D.O. counterparts, and  
I believe it's an inequality that's putting a burden on  
those who wish to work during moonlighting hours outside  
of the current curriculum in order for additional  
learning experience and additional income. And again, I  
just kind of wanted to come here to represent my fellow  
colleagues and my fellow residents within my own program  
as well as my own interest in getting the rule changed  
for medicine licensure to be one year to be equivocal to  
their D.O. counterparts.  
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COURT REPORTER: Can you spell your name,  
please?  
CHRISTOPHER SALAZAR-FIELDS: It's  
C-h-r-i-s-t-o-p-h-e-r, first name, and then last name,  
S-a-l-a-z-a-r hyphen F-i-e-l-d-s.  
COURT REPORTER: Thank you.  
CHRISTOPHER SALAZAR-FIELDS: Thank you.  
MR. MacINTOSH: Thank you,  
Dr. Salazar-Fields.  
Is there anyone else who'd like to speak  
on the Medicine - General Rules? (No response.)  
Hearing none, we'll move on to the third  
rule set. So we will take comments for the Osteopathic  
Medicine - General Rules. Do we have anyone who would  
like to speak on the Osteopathic - General Rules? (No  
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response.)  
Okay. Hearing none. If there are no  
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other people who wish to speak at this time, we'll take a  
short recess.  
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(Recess from 9:06 a.m. until 9:25 a.m.)  
MR. MacINTOSH: Okay. So we are back on  
the record. It appears that there are no further  
comments at this time, so I hereby declare this hearing  
closed. The record will remain open until today at 5:00  
o'clock p.m. for any other comments you may wish to share  
about the proposed rules. Thank you for coming.  
(At 9:26 a.m., the public hearing concluded.)  
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1 STATE OF MICHIGAN )  
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2 COUNTY OF MACOMB )  
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I, Lori Anne Penn, certify that this  
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transcript consisting of 8 pages is a complete, true, and  
correct record of the proceedings held in the captioned  
matter on Friday, June 17, 2022.  
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I further certify that I am not  
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responsible for any copies of this transcript not made  
under my direction or control and bearing my original  
signature.  
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I also certify that I am not a relative  
or employee of or an attorney for a party; or a relative  
or employee of an attorney for a party; or financially  
interested in the action.  
June 22, 2022  
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