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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION  
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own motion, to promulgate rules  
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Case No. U-21079  
Volume No. 1  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
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Proceedings held via Microsoft Teams in the  
above-entitled matter before Jonathan Thoits, J.D.,  
Administrative Law Judge with MOAHR, for the Michigan  
Public Service Commission, Lansing, Michigan, on  
Tuesday, October 5, 2021, at 10:05 a.m.  
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APPEARANCES:  
BENJAMIN J. HOLWERDA,  
Assistant Attorney General  
7109 West Saginaw, Floor 3  
Lansing, Michigan 48917  
On behalf of the Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff  
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24 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
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Tuesday, October 5, 2021  
At 10:05 a.m.  
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(Hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
JUDGE THOITS: This is a proceeding  
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before the Michigan Public Service Commission regarding  
the proposed re-promulgation of rules governing basic  
local exchange service customer migration. This is Case  
No. U-21079, titled: In the matter, on the Commission's  
own motion, to promulgate rules required by  
MCL 484.2202(1)(c)(iii).  
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My name is Jon Thoits, I am the  
Administrative Law Judge assigned to this contested case,  
and I will be assisting with the taking of public comment  
regarding the proposed rules.  
This public hearing is being held  
virtually via Microsoft Teams. In addition, I would note  
that any person may submit written comments regarding the  
proposed rules; the instructions for doing so are set  
forth in the Commission's September 9, 2021, order in  
this matter, again, Case No. U-21079.  
As indicated, the Public Service  
Commission is considering the re-promulgation of rules  
governing basic local exchange service customer  
migration, which rules are located at Michigan  
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Administrative Code R 484.81 to R 484.90. Generally  
these rules are designed to streamline the processes and  
provide guidelines for providers of basic local exchange  
service when transferring an end user from one provider  
to another. The proposed rules contain only minimal  
stylistic changes, and are proposed to take effect on  
June 17, 2022.  
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Is there anyone who wishes to make any  
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comments regarding the proposed rules at this time?  
All right. Hearing none, and on my  
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screen not seeing anyone listed in the queue, if you  
will, to make a comment, but recognizing that others may  
want to and may not have had a chance to call in or log  
in yet, we will go off the record now for a bit to give  
anyone an opportunity to do so. Thank you.  
(At 10:08 a.m., there was a 12-minute recess.)  
JUDGE THOITS: We are back on the record  
for this public hearing. We went off the record for some  
time to allow anyone who hadn't been with us for this  
public hearing to appear and have an opportunity to  
comment.  
Is there anyone who wishes to make any  
public comments regarding the proposed rules?  
All right. Hearing none, and seeing none  
in the queue on my computer screen, and acknowledging  
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what I understand is the history of rarely having public  
comment with respect to the technical matters such as  
rule changes in this matter, I'm going to conclude that  
there is no one who wishes to make public comment  
regarding the proposed re-promulgated rules, and so we  
are off the record. Thank you, Lori, thank you, all.  
(At 10:21 a.m., the public hearing concluded.)  
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C E R T I F I C A T E  
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I, Lori Anne Penn (CSR-1315), do hereby  
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certify that I reported in stenotype the proceedings had  
in the above-entitled matter, that being Case No.  
U-21079, before Jonathan Thoits, J.D., Administrative Law  
Judge with Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and  
Rules, for the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday, October 5, 2021; and do  
further certify that the foregoing transcript, consisting  
of Volume 1, pages 1-5, constitutes a true and correct  
transcript of my stenotype notes.  
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Lor
Penn Reporting, LLC  
lori.penn@yahoo.com  
October 6, 2021  
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