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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
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MONDAY, APRIL 25, 2022  
AT ABOUT 9:04 A.M.  
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G. MENNEN WILLIAMS BUILDING AUDITORIUM  
525 W. OTTAWA STREET  
LANSING, MICHIGAN  
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RE: Acupuncture - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2021-38 LR)  
Massage Therapy - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2021-71 LR)  
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DENA MARKS  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
611 W. Ottawa Street  
Lansing, Michigan 48909  
ALSO PRESENT: Kerry Przybylo  
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24 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
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2 Opening Statement - Dena Marks  
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3 Closing Statement - Dena Marks  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Monday, April 25, 2022  
At 9:04 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
MS. MARKS: Good morning. My name is  
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Dena Marks, and I'm the Departmental Specialist for the  
Bureau of Professional Licensing in the Department of  
Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, and I will be  
conducting the hearing today.  
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This is a public hearing on proposed  
administrative rules entitled "Acupuncture - General  
Rules" and "Massage Therapy - General Rules". We are  
conducting this hearing under the authority of the  
Administrative Procedures Act, Public Act 306 of 1969, on  
behalf of the Department of Licensing and Regulatory  
Affairs, Bureau of Professional Licensing.  
We are calling this hearing to order at  
9:05 a.m. on April 25, 2022, at the G. Mennen Williams  
Building Auditorium, 525 West Ottawa Street in Lansing,  
Michigan. Publication of the notice of public hearing  
was in three newspapers of general circulation: The  
Flint Journal and the Grand Rapids Press on March 31,  
2022, and in the Mining Journal on April 7, 2022. The  
notices were also published in the Michigan Register,  
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Issue #6-2022, on April 15 of 2022.  
We are here today to receive comments on  
the proposed rules. If you wish to speak, please make  
sure you have signed in and indicated you wish to speak.  
You may use the cards provided for this purpose. If you  
would like to speak and have not signed in, please do so  
now. For those of you who do not wish to sign in with a  
card, you may speak at the microphone once we have  
exhausted the cards submitted.  
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If you have comments, please make sure  
they relate directly to the proposed rules. If you have  
questions about the rules, please include your questions  
as part of your testimony for the Department's review.  
If you have suggested changes to the proposed rules,  
please include the specific reasons why the changes would  
be in the public interest. Please note, if you have  
already submitted comments to the Department in writing  
or by email, those comments will be considered in the  
same manner as the comments made during the public  
hearing today.  
For those making comments today, please  
clearly state and spell your name for the record, and if  
you are speaking on behalf of an organization, please  
identify that organization as well. If you have written  
comments, you may submit them directly to me. The  
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Department will also accept written comments postmarked  
or emailed until 5:00 p.m. today.  
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The Bureau staff from the Bureau of  
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Professional Licensing attending today's hearing are  
Kerry Przybylo and me.  
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If there are no persons who wish to speak  
at this time, we will take a short recess.  
(Recess from 9:07 a.m. until 9:18 a.m.)  
MS. MARKS: All right. We are back on  
the record. If there are no further comments at this  
time, I declare the hearing closed. The record will  
remain open until today at 5:00 p.m. for any other  
comments you may wish to share about the proposed rules.  
Thank you for attending.  
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(Public hearing concluded at 9:19 a.m.)  
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I, Lori Anne Penn, certify that this  
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transcript consisting of 6 pages is a complete, true, and  
correct record of the public hearing held in the  
captioned matters on Monday, April 25, 2022.  
I further certify that I am not  
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responsible for any copies of this transcript not made  
under my direction or control and bearing my original  
signature.  
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I also certify that I am not a relative  
or employee of or an attorney for a party; or a relative  
or employee of an attorney for a party; or financially  
interested in the action.  
April 27, 2022  
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Lori
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