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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION  
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own motion, to establish a workgroup  
4 to review the Technical Standards for  
Electric Service and to recommend  
5 potential improvements to the standards.  
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Case No. U-20630  
Volume No. 1  
PUBLIC HEARING  
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Proceedings held in the above-entitled matter  
before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative Law Judge  
with MOAHR, via Microsoft Teams and at the Michigan  
Public Service Commission, 7109 West Saginaw Highway,  
Lake Michigan Room, Lansing, Michigan, on Thursday,  
December 9, 2021, at 10:30 a.m.  
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APPEARANCES:  
MONICA M. STEPHENS, (Via Teams)  
Assistant Attorney General  
7109 West Saginaw, Floor 3  
Lansing, Michigan 48917  
On behalf of the Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff  
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23 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Thursday, December 9, 2021  
At 10:30 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. Good morning  
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and welcome. We are opening the record of a public  
hearing in Michigan Public Service Commission Case No.  
U-20630, entitled: In the matter, on the Commission's  
own motion, to establish a workgroup to review the  
Technical Standards for Electric Service and to recommend  
potential improvements to the standards.  
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This is the date and time designated by  
the Commission in its November 4, 2021, order for a  
public hearing to solicit comments on the proposed rule  
revisions. This public hearing is being held in person  
at the Commission's Lansing office and as a video  
teleconference hearing. The Commission's address was  
included in the notice of hearing. The information  
needed to participate remotely was also included in the  
notice of hearing, and allows for participation by  
Microsoft Teams link or by phone. The Commission's  
publicly available docket for this case shows the notice  
of this hearing was published in the following newspapers  
on November 23, 2021: The Grand Rapids Press, The Mining  
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Journal, and The Oakland Press.  
For the record, my name is Sharon  
Feldman, I am an Administrative Law Judge with the  
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Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules, and  
my function today is to make sure that everyone who wants  
to make an oral comment on the proposed rules has the  
opportunity to do so.  
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Additionally, I'd note that the  
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Commission is accepting written comments on the rules  
through January 6, 2022. Written comments must reach the  
Commission prior to 5:00 p.m. on that day. As specified  
in the notice of hearing, written comments can be sent by  
mail to the Commission's office addressed to the  
Executive Secretary, Case No. U-20630, Michigan Public  
Service Commission, P.O. Box 30221, Lansing, Michigan  
48909, or may be emailed to the Commission's Executive  
Secretary at mpscedockets@michigan.gov. Please reference  
Case No. U-20630 in your email. As a reminder, all  
information submitted to the Commission in this matter  
will become public information available on the  
Commission's website and subject to disclosure.  
I also want to note that Assistant  
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Attorney General Monica Stephens is participating  
remotely. Ms. Stephens, would you like to place your  
appearance on record.  
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MS. STEPHENS: Good morning, your Honor.  
Monica Stephens on behalf of MPSC Staff.  
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JUDGE FELDMAN: Thank you. For anyone  
who has questions on the rules after we conclude the  
comment portion today, Tayler Becker is here in person, a  
member of the Michigan Public Service Commission Staff,  
or you may reach out by email or phone to Mr. Becker or  
to Ms. Stephens and they will help find somebody to get  
answers to your questions.  
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We also have a court reporter here, and  
the transcript of this hearing, including all comments,  
will be posted to the docket for this case which is  
available on the Commission's website. All written  
comments will also be posted in that same docket.  
Let me just ask for the record whether  
there is anyone in the hearing room this morning who  
wants to make a comment? (No response.)  
All right. Let me turn to those  
participating remotely. And please, if you'd like to  
make a comment, you can type your name in the chat or you  
can unmute yourself and tell me your name. Anybody at  
all? Type your name in the chat, unmute yourself. If  
you're calling in by phone, press *6 to unmute and let me  
know if you'd like to make a comment. If you're having  
any technical difficulties, you could also try raising  
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your hand, use the Raise Your Hand feature on the Teams  
menu. Is there anyone at all who'd like to make a  
comment? (No response.)  
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All right. I'm not seeing anyone who  
wishes to make a comment, but I don't want to wrap this  
up prematurely, so feel free. Anybody participating by  
phone who would like to make a comment, I believe it's *6  
to unmute the phone line.  
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All right. Thank you all very much for  
attending today. As noted, you may still file written  
comments as provided in the Commission's notice of  
hearing. I wish you all a very pleasant day, and we are  
adjourned.  
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MS. STEPHENS: Thank you.  
JUDGE FELDMAN: Thank you.  
(Public hearing adjourned at 10:38 a.m.)  
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C E R T I F I C A T E  
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I, Lori Anne Penn (CSR-1315), do hereby  
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certify that I reported in stenotype the proceedings had  
in the above-entitled matter, that being Case No.  
U-20630, before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative  
Law Judge with Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings  
and Rules, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Lansing, Michigan, on  
Thursday, December 9, 2021; and do further certify that  
the foregoing transcript, consisting of Volume 1, pages  
1-6, constitutes a true and correct transcript of my  
stenotype notes.  
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lori.penn@yahoo.com  
December 14, 2021  
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