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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
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FRIDAY, SEPTEMBER 25, 2020  
AT ABOUT 9:00 A.M.  
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VIA ZOOM CONFERENCE  
LANSING, MICHIGAN  
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RE: Acupuncture - General Rules (MOAHR #2020-08 LR)  
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DENA MARKS  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
611 W. Ottawa Street  
Lansing, Michigan 48909  
ALSO PRESENT: Kerry Przybylo  
Stephanie Wysack  
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22 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
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2 Opening Statement - Dena Marks  
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4 COMMENTS:  
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7 Closing Statement - Dena Marks  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Friday, September 25, 2020  
At 9:00 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
DENA MARKS: Good morning. My name is  
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Dena Marks, I'm an analyst for the Bureau of Professional  
Licensing in the Department of Licensing and Regulatory  
Affairs. I will be conducting the hearing today.  
This is a public hearing on proposed  
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administrative rules entitled "Acupuncture-General  
Rules". We are conducting the hearing as required by the  
Administrative Procedures Act to allow the public to  
comment on the proposed changes to this rule set. As  
with all other public hearings on draft rule sets, the  
only items to be discussed during this hearing will be  
the proposed changes to the rule set. This hearing will  
not be covering any questions or discussions of any other  
issues.  
We are calling this hearing to order at  
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9:00 a.m. on September the 25 , 2020, via Zoom under  
Executive Order 2020-154 in response to the COVID-19  
pandemic. The notice of public hearing was published in  
three newspapers of general circulation, the Grand Rapids  
Press and the Flint Journal on September 13, 2020, and  
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the Mining Journal on September 9, 2020, as well as the  
Michigan Register, Issue 16-2020, published on September  
15, 2020.  
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All comments should relate directly to  
the proposed rules. If you have questions about the  
rules, you may place your comments on the record and the  
Department will review and consider them. If you have  
suggested changes to the proposed rules, please include  
the specific reasons why the changes would be in the  
public interest.  
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We will take comments in the following  
manner.  
For those of you using the Video Conference  
portion (not calling on a telephone) please use  
the "Raise Your Hand" feature in Zoom. I will  
call on individuals to speak and they will be  
unmuted at that time.  
For participants that are available only by  
telephone, we will ask if you wish to make a  
comment after the video participants have  
finished.  
If you have a comment but do not wish to speak,  
please note that the Department will also accept  
written statements postmarked today or e-mailed  
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today.  
Those making comments should clearly and  
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slowly say and spell your name and advise if you are  
speaking on behalf of an organization. We will limit  
comments to three minutes per person. Please remember  
that only one person should speak at a time.  
The other Department staff from the  
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Bureau of Professional Licensing attending today are  
Kerry Przybylo and Stephanie Wysack.  
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Is there anyone who would like to make  
comments on the Acupuncture-General Rules?  
Again, if you're on video or on your  
computer, just use the "Raise Your Hand" function and we  
will call on you.  
I'm not seeing any hands being raised.  
If someone is phoning in and would like  
to make a comment, you may hit "*6", and please identify  
yourself and then you may begin to speak.  
If there are no persons who would like to  
speak at this time, we will take a short recess to see if  
others join us who would like to make comment. So we are  
in recess.  
(At 9:04 a.m., there was a ten-minute recess.)  
DENA MARKS: If there are no persons who  
wish to speak on the rules at this time, I declare the  
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hearing closed. The record will remain open today until  
5:00 p.m. for any other comments you may wish to share  
about the proposed rules. Thank you for attending.  
(Public hearing concluded at 9:15 a.m.)  
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1 STATE OF MICHIGAN )  
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2 COUNTY OF MACOMB )  
I, Lori Anne Penn, certify that this  
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transcript consisting of 7 pages is a complete, true, and  
correct record of the Public Hearing held in this matter  
on Friday, September 25, 2020.  
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I further certify that I am not  
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responsible for any copies of this transcript not made  
under my direction or control and bearing my original  
signature.  
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I also certify that I am not a relative  
or employee of or an attorney for a party; or a relative  
or employee of an attorney for a party; or financially  
interested in the action.  
Digitally signed by Lori A Penn  
DN: cn=Lori A Penn, o=Metro Court  
Reporters Inc, ou,  
email=metrostate@sbcglobal.net, c=US  
Date: 2020.09.28 09:40:37 -04'00'  
Lori A Penn  
Date  
Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
Notary Public, Macomb County, Michigan  
My Commission Expires June 15, 2025  
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