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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
DEPARTMENT OF LICENSING AND REGULATORY AFFAIRS  
BUREAU OF PROFESSIONAL LICENSING  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
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TUESDAY, OCTOBER 4, 2022  
AT ABOUT 9:00 A.M.  
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OTTAWA BUILDING  
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UPPER-LEVEL CONFERENCE ROOM #4  
611 WEST OTTAWA STREET  
LANSING, MICHIGAN  
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RE: Landscape Architects - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2022-23 LR)  
Physician's Assistants - General Rules  
(MOAHR #2022-4 LR)  
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18 HEARING FACILITATOR:  
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WESTON MacINTOSH  
Bureau of Professional Licensing  
611 W. Ottawa Street  
Lansing, Michigan 48909  
ALSO PRESENT: Dena Marks  
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2 Opening Statement - Weston MacIntosh  
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7 Closing Statement - Weston MacIntosh  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Tuesday, October 4, 2022  
At 9:00 a.m.  
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(Public Hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
MR. MacINTOSH: My name is Weston  
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MacIntosh, and I am a Departmental Specialist for the  
Bureau of Professional Licensing in the Department of  
Licensing and Regulatory Affairs, and I will be  
conducting the hearing today.  
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This is a public hearing on proposed  
administrative rules entitled "Landscape Architects -  
General Rules" and "Physician's Assistants - General  
Rules". We are conducting this hearing under the  
authority of the Administrative Procedures Act, Public  
Act 306 of 1969, on behalf of the Department of Licensing  
and Regulatory Affairs, Bureau of Professional Licensing.  
We are calling this hearing to order at  
9:00 o'clock a.m. on October 4, 2022, at the Ottawa  
Building at 611 West Ottawa Street, Upper-Level  
Conference Room #4, Lansing, Michigan. Publication of  
the notice of public hearing was in three newspapers of  
general circulation, including the Grand Rapids Press on  
September 15, 2022, the Flint Journal on September 15,  
2022, the Mining Journal on September 16, 2022, as well  
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as the Michigan Register, Issue #17, published on  
October 1, 2022.  
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We are here today to receive your  
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comments on the proposed rules. If you wish to speak,  
please make sure you have signed in and said that you  
wish to speak. You may use the cards provided in the  
lobby for this purpose. I will organize the cards by  
rule set so that the comments for that profession are in  
a group together in the transcript. If you would like to  
testify and have not signed in, please do so now. For  
those of you who do not wish to sign in with a card, you  
may speak at the microphone once we have exhausted the  
stack of cards that you give to me.  
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If you have comments, please make sure  
that they relate directly to the rules. If you have  
questions about the rules, please include your questions  
as part of your testimony for the Department's review.  
If you have suggested changes to the proposed rules,  
please include the specific reasons why the changes would  
be in the public interest.  
For the record, when you testify, please  
give us your name by spelling your name and your  
organization, if any, that you may be speaking for today.  
This will help the Department prepare the hearing record  
that will go before the Boards. You can give written  
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statements directly to me at the table. The Department  
will also accept written statements emailed or postmarked  
until 5:00 o'clock p.m. today.  
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The Department staff from the Bureau of  
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Professional Licensing also includes Dena Marks.  
The first rule set that we will take  
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comments for is the "Landscape Architects - General  
Rules". Is there anyone here wishing to speak on the  
"Landscape Architects - General Rules"? (No response.)  
Hearing none.  
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The second rule set that we will take  
comments for is "Physician's Assistants - General Rules".  
Is there anyone here who would wish to speak on the  
"Physician's Assistants - General Rules"? (No response.)  
Hearing none.  
If there are no people who wish to speak  
at this time, we will take a short recess.  
(Recess from 9:03 a.m. until 9:18 a.m.)  
MR. MacINTOSH: If there are no further  
comments at this time, I hereby declare the hearing  
closed. The record will remain open until today at 5:00  
o'clock p.m. for any further comments or other comments  
you may wish to share about the proposed rules. Thank  
you for coming.  
(Public Hearing concluded at 9:19 a.m.)  
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I, Lori Anne Penn, certify that this  
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transcript, consisting of 6 pages, is a complete, true,  
and correct record of the captioned matter held on  
Tuesday, October 4, 2022.  
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I further certify that I am not  
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responsible for any copies of this transcript not made  
under my direction or control and bearing my original  
signature.  
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I also certify that I am not a relative  
or employee of or an attorney for a party; or a relative  
or employee of an attorney for a party; or financially  
interested in the action.  
October 6, 2022  
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