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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Good morning.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
My name is Brad Deacon and I am the hearing officer for the Michigan Department of Agriculture and  
Rural Development.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Today I'm conducting the public hearing on the proposed changes to rule five of the rules promulgated  
under the authority of the bodies of dead animals.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
For the record, the date is July 21st, 2023 and the time is 9:05 AM.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
We are conducting this hearing both in person here in the Theodore Ground conference room in  
Constitution Hall, 525 W Allegan St, Lansing, MI, and virtually using Microsoft Teams to allow for greater  
participation by interested parties across the state without having to drive to the Lansing area.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Lansing area Please note that we are recording today's public hearing and generating a transcript of it  
through Microsoft Teams President today from the Michigan Department of Agriculture and Rural  
Development are Jamie Guardiola, Vanessa Maddox, Doctor Nora Weinman, director, Animal Industry  
division and state veterinarian Doctor Jennifer Calligaro and Jeff Shaner, also with the animal Industry  
Division department.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Legal interns Kelly Lewis and Kayla Seeger are also present today on behalf of the Michigan Department  
of Agriculture and Rural Development.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
And its director, Doctor Boring, welcome to today's public hearing.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
We very much appreciate your interest and attendance today.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
This hearing is being conducted under authority provided to the department in the case of Dead Animals  
Act in sections 15 and 27, being 287.665 and 287.677 of the Michigan compiled laws under section 15,  
the department shall promulgate rules regarding the methods and conditions for active composting of  
livestock mortality.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Notice of this public hearing was published in the Michigan Register on July 15th, 2023 in issue #12 of  
2023.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
The Eagle notices were published in the Bay City Times on June 20th.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
The Holland Sentinel on June 21st and the Escanaba Daily Press on June 23rd notice was also posted on  
the department's website.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
On June 15th, 2023, this hearing is being recorded and the transcript will be generated.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Copies of the proposed amendments to Rule 5 from the bodies of their Animals Act rules, as well as the  
regulatory impact statement and the cost benefit analysis developed by the department, are available  
from the department and have been posted on the website for the Michigan Office of Administrative  
Hearings and Rules.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Written comments must be received by the close of business on Wednesday, July 26th, 2023 until 5:00  
PM if anyone has written comments but has not yet sent them, you may raise your hand in the virtual  
room and I will provide the email address, fax number for US mailing address as I asked that everyone in  
attendance who wishes to speak in today's public hearing, Please note so if you were in the room or  
raise your hand in the virtual setting if you're able to do so, I will call on everyone who indicates a desire  
to speak, including those who are attending by telephone only.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Anyone present who wishes to have their attendees included in the record but who does not wish to  
speak or make comments, please provide your name and city in the chat function if you are unable to do  
that, I will ask for that information as well.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
At the conclusion of the hearing, when I call on you to speak, please state your name.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Spell your last name and indicate whom you represent.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
If you represent an organization, but we have ground rules, let me state that our purpose today is to  
gather comments and concerns from the public for the record, which will be considered during the  
administrative rulemaking process.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
In synopsis, the proposed changes to 05 from the bodies of Dead Animals Act rules would allow  
Michigan standards relating to management of compost piles to align with the current national  
standards set by the United States Department of Agriculture.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
At this point, I will call on Doctor Nora Weinland from the department's animal industry division for any  
additional comments.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
I would just like to say that the reason for this change in the rules is to align things so that when we use  
or if we need to use composting as a way to eliminate viruses, we want to be aligned with the USDA and  
not require producers to have to go through extra steps that won't be reimbursed through USDA.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
So that at that and modernizing is the main thing and it's very important to us that we can efficiently and  
effectively eliminate viruses when we have disease situations.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Thank you.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Thank you.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Doctor weiland.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Is there anyone present who would like to make comments?  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
In person or virtually?  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Is there anyone present who does not wish to speak but would like their tenants down in for the record?  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
My name is Shelly Tackett.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
I'm from East Lansing, MI.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Ohh, representing machine pork producers association.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Anyone else who would like to speak or share anything regarding these rules with different?  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
If there are no other public comments at this time, seeing that the time is 9:11 AM and we we will take a  
recess and reconvene at 9:30.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Good morning.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Welcome back.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
We will come out of recess and reconvene to take additional comment at this time.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Yes, my name is Shelby Tackett from East Lansing, MI.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
I'm here representing Michigan Pork Producers Association and we support the updates to the to the law  
the most.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Thank you.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Is there anyone else in attendance to would like to make comment or would like to have their presence  
today recorded for the record?  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Hearing none for the record, I have not received any additional slips or seen any hands.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Oh, thank you.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Here's we have in our transcript or in our in the chat function of some people have noted that they are  
present.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Uh, let me remind everyone that written comments will be accepted until 5:00 PM on Wednesday, July  
26th, 2023.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
If anyone needs information on how to provide that to department, please say so now.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Thank you to all who attended today's public comment.  
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DTMB-ConfRoom-ConHall-AT-Brown  
Hearing you are interested in this matter is certainly appreciated and we will close this hearing at 9:31  
AM.  
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