DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL SERVICES  
Pharmacy Benefit Manager Licensure and Regulation Rules  
PUBLIC HEARING TRANSCRIPT  
Date Held: Friday, June 9, 2023  
Location: Michigan Library and Historical Center Conference Room, 1st Floor Forum  
Attendees:  
Ryan Durkin  
Karen Dennis  
Mike Frederick  
Michele Riddering  
Sarah Wolford  
Adryne Boynton  
Good morning:  
This is a public hearing on proposed administrative rules entitled, “Pharmacy Benefit Manager Licensure  
and Regulation Act” Rule Set. This hearing is being conducted on behalf of the Michigan Department of  
Insurance and Financial Services, pursuant to the Administrative Procedures Act of 1969. My name is  
Ryan Durkin. I am an Administrative Law Specialist at the Department, and I will be facilitating hearing  
today.  
This hearing is called to order at 10:03 am, on June 9, 2023, and is taking place in the 1st Floor Forum of  
the Michigan Library and Historical Center, in Lansing, Michigan.  
Notice of this hearing was published in three newspapers of general circulation, and in the Michigan  
Register, issue number 8, which was published on May 15, 2023.  
Please know, we are here today to receive your comments on the proposed rules. If you wish to speak,  
please make sure you have signed in and indicated your willingness to speak. We will call on speakers in  
the order in which names are listed on the sign in sheet. We will not be responding to any questions or  
comments. If you do have a question relating to the proposed rules, please submit your questions in  
writing to Michele Estrada. Her email address is EstradaM1@michigan.gov. That is E-S-T-R-A-D-A-M, the  
number 1, at Michigan dot gov. This email address is also listed on the notice for this public hearing,  
which is available on the Department’s web page.  
When you come forward to speak, please identify yourself with your name, the organization you  
represent, and both your mailing and email address so that this information can be transcribed into the  
hearing report.  
If you have additional comments to submit in writing, you may leave them here or submit them to the  
Department no later than 5:00 pm today.  
We will now begin calling on individuals to see if they would like to speak. Is there anyone who would  
like to speak? Hearing none, let the record reflect that there are no individuals present who wish to  
speak. We will take a short recess and reconvene at 10:35 am today.  
It is now 10:35 am. We are back from our recess. Are there any people who wish to speak at this time?  
Hearing none. If there are no further comments, I declare this hearing closed. Any additional comments  
regarding the proposed rules must be submitted in writing to: Michele Estrada by email to  
estradam1@michigan.gov or by mail to the Department’s address listed on the Notice of Public Hearing  
no later than 5:00 p.m. today.  
The record will remain open until today at 5:00 p.m. today. The current time is 10:36 am.  
Thank you.  
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