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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION  
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own motion, to re-promulgate rules  
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Case No. U-21368  
Volume No. 1  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
Proceedings held in the above-entitled matter  
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before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative Law Judge  
with MOAHR, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Lake Michigan Room, Lansing,  
Michigan, on Tuesday, August 1, 2023, at 9:03 a.m.  
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APPEARANCES:  
ALENA M. CLARK,  
Assistant Attorney General  
7109 W. Saginaw Highway, Floor 3  
Lansing, Michigan 48917  
On behalf of Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff  
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24 REPORTED BY: Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
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I N D E X  
2 Opening Statement by Judge Feldman  
3 Closing Statement by Judge Feldman  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Tuesday, August 1, 2023  
At 9:03 a.m.  
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(Public Hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. On the  
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record. Good morning and welcome. We are opening the  
record of a public hearing in Michigan Public Service  
Commission, Case No. U-21368, entitled In the matter, on  
the Commission's own motion, to re-promulgate rules  
required by MCL 484.2202(1)(c)(iv). This is the date and  
time designated by the Commission for a public hearing to  
solicit comments on the proposed rules. This public  
hearing is being held in person at the Commission's  
Lansing office. The Commission's address was included in  
the notice of hearing. The Commission's publicly  
available docket for this case shows that the notice of  
this hearing was published in the Mining Journal and the  
Oakland Press on July 17, 2023, and in the Grand Rapids  
Press on July 18, 2023.  
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For the record, my name is Sharon  
Feldman, I'm an Administrative Law Judge with the  
Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings and Rules; and  
my function today is to make sure that everyone who wants  
to make an oral comment on the proposed rules has the  
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opportunity to do so.  
Additionally, I'd note that the  
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Commission is accepting written comments on the rules  
through August 14, 2023. Written comments must reach the  
Commission prior to 5:00 p.m. on that day. As specified  
in the notice of hearing, written comments can be sent by  
email to the Commission's office addressed to the  
Executive Secretary, Case No. U-21368, Michigan Public  
Service Commission, P.O. Box 30221, Lansing, Michigan  
48909, or may be emailed to the Commission's Executive  
Secretary at mpscedockets@michigan.gov. Please reference  
Case No. U-21368 in your email. As a reminder all  
information submitted to the Commission in this matter  
will become public information available on the  
Commission's website and subject to disclosure.  
I also want to note that Assistant  
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Attorney General Alena Clark is here. Ms. Clark, would  
you like to place your appearance on the record.  
MS. CLARK: Yes. Thank you, Judge.  
Alena Clark on behalf of the Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff.  
JUDGE FELDMAN: Additionally, attending  
the hearing today are members of the Michigan Public  
Service Commission Staff. Ms. Clark, it is my  
understanding that should anyone here have questions on  
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the rules, you will be able to put that person in touch  
with a knowledgable member of the Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff to address the question or questions?  
MS. CLARK: That's correct.  
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JUDGE FELDMAN: We also have a court  
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reporter here, and the transcript of this hearing,  
including all comments, will be posted to the docket for  
this case, which is available on the Commission's  
website. To find it on the website, go to  
michigan.gov/mpsc, click on the button or link for the  
E-Docket, that's E hyphen Docket, and enter U-21368 in  
the search line. All written comments will also be  
posted on the website in the same docket.  
Let me ask now if there is anyone here  
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that would like to make a comment on the rules? (No  
response.)  
All right. Since no one is present who  
would like to make a comment, we're going to adjourn for  
15 minutes to see if anybody arrives in the interim. Off  
the record.  
(Recess from 9:08 a.m. until 9:28 a.m.)  
JUDGE FELDMAN: All right. Back on the  
record. It's just about 9:30 and no one else has  
appeared wishing to make a comment, so we are going to  
close this public hearing. Thank you all very much for  
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coming this morning. We're adjourned.  
(At 9:29 a.m., the public hearing concluded.)  
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C E R T I F I C A T E  
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I, Lori Anne Penn (CSR-1315), do hereby  
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certify that I reported in stenotype the proceedings had  
in the above-entitled matter, that being Case No.  
U-21368, before Sharon L. Feldman, J.D., Administrative  
Law Judge with Michigan Office of Administrative Hearings  
and Rules, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Lansing, Michigan, on Tuesday,  
August 1, 2023; and do further certify that the foregoing  
transcript, consisting of Volume 1, pages 1-7,  
constitutes a true and correct transcript of my stenotype  
notes.  
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Lori
Penn Reporting, LLC  
lori.penn@yahoo.com  
August 3, 2023  
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