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STATE OF MICHIGAN  
BEFORE THE MICHIGAN PUBLIC SERVICE COMMISSION  
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own motion, to amend the rules  
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for gas service.  
Case No. U-20608  
Volume No. 1  
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PUBLIC HEARING  
Proceedings held in the above-entitled matter  
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before Kandra Robbins, J.D., Administrative Law Judge  
with MOAHR, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Lake Michigan Room, Lansing,  
Michigan, on Wednesday, November 13, 2019, at 9:00 a.m.  
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NICHOLAS Q. TAYLOR,  
Assistant Attorney General  
7109 West Saginaw Highway, Floor 3  
Lansing, Michigan 48917  
On behalf of Michigan Public Service  
Commission Staff  
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Lansing, Michigan  
Wednesday, November 13, 2019  
At 9:00 a.m.  
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(Public hearing commenced pursuant to due notice.)  
JUDGE ROBBINS: Good morning. This is a  
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hearing before the Michigan Public Service Commission in  
Case No. U-20608, captioned In the matter, on the  
Commission's own motion, to amend the rules governing the  
technical standards for gas service. It is Wednesday,  
November 13, 2019, it is approximately 9:00 a.m.  
My name is Kandra Robbins, I'm the  
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administrative law judge assigned as the presiding  
officer in this matter.  
As set forth in a Notice of Hearing  
issued by the Michigan Public Service Commission's  
Executive Secretary on October 17, 2019, this is the  
time, date, and place prescribed for public comment on  
the proposed rules. The notice did include a copy of the  
proposed rules. In addition, the notice was published on  
October 30, 2019, in newspapers of general circulation,  
including The Mining Journal, The Grand Rapids Press, and  
The Oakland Press, as noted in the electronic docket  
regarding this matter.  
Written comments are permitted until 5:00  
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p.m. on December 4, 2019, as prescribed in the notice.  
Please reference Case No. U-20608. Additional  
instructions for making written comments are included in  
the notice.  
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Nicholas Taylor is here on behalf of the  
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Commission Staff. Mr. Taylor, would you like to put your  
appearance on the record, please.  
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MR. TAYLOR: Yes, your Honor. Good  
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morning. Nicholas Taylor, Assistant Attorney General,  
for the Michigan Public Service Commission Staff.  
JUDGE ROBBINS: Thank you.  
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I myself can not answer questions  
regarding the proposed rules. Staff members of the  
Michigan Public Service are present and may be able to  
answer your questions after the proceedings. Mr. Taylor  
will be able to direct you to the appropriate Staff  
member, if necessary.  
Is there anyone present who would like to  
make a comment this morning? (No response.)  
I'm getting lots of head shaking. It  
appears most of the people in the back of the room are  
Staff. So we will adjourn for 15 minutes just in case  
there are some stragglers in, the weather this morning  
might not be cooperating. So we'll stand adjourned until  
about 9:15, or if somebody comes in and wants to make a  
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comment. Thank you.  
(At 9:03 a.m., a recess was taken.)  
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JUDGE ROBBINS: We are back on the  
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record. It is now approximately 9:17. We have had some  
members of the public come in; I've asked if they wanted  
to give comment, I was told that they were just looking  
to observe. But I'll ask one more time, is there anyone  
in the room that would like to make a public comment?  
(No response.)  
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It does not appear so. So with that, I  
will thank everyone for coming this morning, remind you  
that you have until December 4, 2019, to make any written  
comments. And this hearing is concluded. Thank you.  
(At 9:18 a.m., the hearing concluded.)  
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C E R T I F I C A T E  
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I, Lori Anne Penn, do hereby certify that I  
reported in stenotype the proceedings had in the  
within-entitled matter, that being Case No. U-20608,  
before Kandra Robbins, Administrative Law Judge with  
MOAHR, at the Michigan Public Service Commission,  
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Lansing, Michigan, on Wednesday, November 13, 2019; and  
do further certify that the foregoing transcript,  
consisting of Volume 1, is a true and correct transcript  
of my stenotype notes.  
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Digitally signed by Lori Anne  
Penn  
Lori Anne DN: cn=Lori Anne Penn, o=Metro  
Court Reporters, ou=Metro,  
email=metrostate@sbcglobal.net,  
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Penn  
Date: 2019.11.19 20:20:20 -05'00'  
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Lori Anne Penn, CSR-1315  
33231 Grand River Avenue  
Farmington, Michigan 48336  
metrostate@sbcglobal.net  
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