Dear Ms. Maidlow,  
On behalf of myself and the members of the Michigan Association of Timbermen (MAT) we  
would first like to say thank you for the opportunity to provide input at the August 17th, 2023,  
public hearing regarding proposed changes to the Commercial Forest Act policy.  
Our association is specifically concerned about the proposed 30-day notice period and would  
like to request that the notice period be limited to just seven days.  
A requirement of 30-day notice for commencement of logging activities on commercial forest  
lands presents challenges for commercial forest owners in coordinating with logging  
contractors. The extended timeframe restricts adaptability and responsiveness to market  
demands and unforeseen circumstances, including weather issues. To address this, the  
Michigan Association of Timbermen requests that the DNR reduce the notice period to seven  
days, striking a balance between responsible forestry practices and the practical needs of the  
industry.  
Again, we thank you for the opportunity to address the department in person and in writing.  
Should you have any questions or comments for MAT, please do not hesitate to contact me.  
Sincerely,  
Justin Knepper, Executive Director  
Michigan Association of Timbermen  
(906)293-3236 office  
(906)630-0579 cell  
7350 M 123 Newberry, MI 49868 | Phone: (906) 293-3236 Fax: (906) 293-5444 |  
August 30th 2023  
American Forest Management  
850 W. Sharon Ave. Suite 2  
Houghton, MI 49931  
Michigan Department of Natural Resources  
Karen Maidlow  
Forest Resources Division  
Commercial Forest Program  
PO Box 30452  
Lansing, MI 48909-7952  
RE: CFA Proposed Administrative Rules Revision Public Comment  
Thank you for the opportunity to submit comments on the Proposed Updated Rules of the  
Commercial Forest Act. American Forest Management (AFM) manages more than 560,000  
acres of Commercial Forest lands that are enrolled in the Act. Of the approximately 2.2 million  
acres of CFA lands, AFM is responsible for the sustainable management of around 25% of the  
lands enrolled in the en�re program. These lands directly support hundreds of family sustaining  
careers for logging contractors, truckers, road construc�on, and foresters pung more than $40  
million directly into MIchigan communi�es.  
We always support revisions of the Administra�ve Rules to allow clearer and streamlined  
management of the Act. As managers of both very large industrial investments and small  
family-owned genera�onal woodlots, we have a perspec�ve that allows us to see things from  
many viewpoints. Any �me that there are any sugges�ons of changes to the various parts of  
the CFA process, we take those sugges�ons very seriously. There are quite oen unintended  
consequences of trying to improve one por�on of the process while at the same �me having a  
detrimental effect on other aspects. The conversa�ons with DNR Staff aer the release of the  
Proposed changes have been very produc�ve and are very much appreciated. It would be our  
desire that in the future, there be a more interac�ve process with Stakeholders outside of the  
Department prior to the publishing of any proposed changes.  
In the atempt to revise the Rules and to make things easier for the Department to manage the  
Program, there becomes new burdens on the Landowners that are currently doing a good job of  
following the rules. This is true of both large and small landowners. If the overwhelming  
number of non-compliance issues are with the small private landowners, then maybe in the  
future it would be prudent to have a different set of rules for the larger landowners?  
In terms of sugges�ons for edits on the language of the proposed changes:  
Page 5, Rule 5 (d)- The current revision states “…submit a copy of the prospec�ve easement  
across listed land to the department for review at least 30 days before entering into such an  
agreement.” It is my understanding that this is in reference to any easement other than  
Conservaon easements (which are referenced in 5 (g)). This would mean access easements,  
trail easements, u�li�es, etc? This is not realis�c. This requirement has the poten�al to delay  
real estate transac�ons. We do not believe this language should be changed from what was in  
the previous version of the Rules.  
Page 5, Rule 5 (e) Language around Improvements- If roads are considered an improvement,  
then “improvements” must be lein the language as permissible.  
Page 6- Rule 6 (1) The new requirement of having a minimum number of days ahead of harvest  
for submission of the Harvest No�fica�on form is neither in the spirit nor the leter of the Act.  
The Act very clearly says only that no�fica�on must be made to the Department PRIOR to  
harves�ng. It is clearly defined to be no�fica�on and not an applica�on. If there MUST be a  
number of days listed in the Rules, then we would request no more than 7 days. We would  
emphasize, that even at a 7-day requirement period, there will be �mes when it will be  
necessary to have no�ce submited in a shorter �meframe than 7 days.  
Rule 8 (6) I think the intent was for the language to read “…department will administra�vely  
withdraw the land without applica�on, applica�on fee, or penalty OR the department will re-  
enroll the land without any ac�on by the landowner being required.”  
Sincerely,  
Eric E. Stier  
Regional Manager, American Forest Management  
August 30, 2023  
Karen Maidlow  
Commercial Forest Program Leader  
DNR-FRD  
P.O. Box 30452  
Lansing, MI 48909  
RE: Public comments on: MI Department of Natural Resources proposed revision of the State  
Administrative Rules for Commercial Forests  
Dear Karen Maidlow,  
As a commercial forest landowner representing around seventy thousand acres of listed commercial forest  
ownership, Longyear requests consideration for additional revisions to the published draft Administrative  
Rules for Commercial Forests based on the concerns with portions of the proposed rules as described  
below.  
General comments  
In regard to effects on the forest industry, which supports tens of thousands of jobs and over $22 billion  
annually to Michigan’s economy, and specifically on Longyear’s forest management and commercial  
harvest operations on Longyear ownership currently listed under the Commercial Forest Act, certain  
portions of the proposed changes to the Administrative Rules for Commercial Forests would put an  
unnecessary burden upon Longyear’s forest operation as well as upon other large commercial forest  
operations in the State of Michigan. We have detailed those concerns with our comments and suggested  
changes in the sections below.  
Comments Specific to R 299.2606; Rule 6. (1)  
The addition of “not less than 30 days before” adds a constraint onto large commercial forest operations  
that is not reasonably achievable. One key component to running a profitable industrial forest operation  
on a large commercial forest ownership is the ability to adapt quickly to changing market and  
environmental conditions. Often these larger forest operations, like Longyear’s, are operating on several,  
and typically dozens of harvest areas at any given time. Even with a multi-year harvest plans pre-  
established across the commercial forest ownership, market changes and changing and unforeseeable  
weather and soil conditions inevitably require a forest operation to make changes to harvest areas and to  
move logging crews to contingency areas, sometimes within days, and certainly within time periods  
shorter than 30 days.  
Customers often change buying patterns and close the doors to purchasing certain species or products for  
time periods, often with only a few days’ notice. Precipitation levels or winter temperatures can cause soil  
conditions to change in a day and may require operational moves to protect the resource when, especially  
while operating harvest sites with potentially sensitive soils. In order to avoid unforeseen downtime, which  
would be detrimental to the viability and health of the regional forest products supply chain, and still  
comply with the new 30-day prior requirement, large CF owners, like Longyear, would need to submit  
intent to harvest notifications for multiple contingent harvest blocks, the majority of which will not be  
harvested in the submitted timeline, requiring additional notifications of change to be submitted. This  
unintended complication would certainly put an unneeded burden on both the CF landowners, as well as  
on the department, and would likely still be inadequate to fully mitigate operational lost flexibility and  
negative impact to the supply chain and our forest products business.  
As the statute (in 324.5111) only requires notification “to the department prior to cutting, harvesting, or  
removal of forest products,” we request that the added 30-day requirement in the draft rules be changed  
to 5-day or less, or removed altogether, to provide large scale commercial forest operations the flexibility  
needed to adequately protect the forest resource, their economic viability, and the health of the supply  
chain.  
Comments Specific to R 299.2605b; Rule 5b (1) (2) (3)  
We have no issue with and can support the added requirement in Rule 5b (1) (3) to submit a copy of the  
plan and its revisions as a change to the current requirement of only having a copy available upon request  
by the department. It is only logical that the department maintain a copy of a landowners’ plans if they are  
to enforce harvest activities following said plans, and we support this change. We do suggest, however,  
that the 30-day requirement be reduced to 5 days.  
We have concerns over the removal of the “and published” language from Rule 5b (2). We understand  
that the intent is not to remove the online link to the requirements, however we feel is better to keep that  
requirement for transparency from the department in the rule.  
Comments Specific to R 299.2605; Rule 5 (d) and (g)  
We have concerns over the additional requirement to submit a copy of prospective easements “to the  
department for review at least 30 days before entering into such an agreement”. We understand the need  
for the department to be able to determine if such agreements put a landowner in violation of the  
requirements of the act, such as significant impacts to forest management or reduction of forest  
productivity, as the department must enforce this compliance per the act. We fail to see the value or benefit  
from adding a review time-period which can potentially delay access agreements for adjacent landowners,  
subsequently affecting the ability and timing of potential real estate transactions, placing undue burden  
and costs onto large CF landowners.  
We furthermore are unclear about how the department intends to respond. Requiring a review period  
without a coupled mechanism for response creates ambiguity and burdens landowners unduly. The act  
does not provide direction to the department to “review and approve or disapprove” of said agreements,  
only to ensure that any such agreements do not disqualify the affected land parcel from remaining in the  
act by violating other provisions. Adding an apparent pre-approval process into the rules with no clarity  
on how the department intends to respond is an unnecessary burden upon both landowners and the  
department. We urge the department to remove the “30 day before” clause, and maintain the rule as a  
notification only, allowing the department to ensure landowners keep continued compliance with the act.  
Comments Specific to the new Notification Prior to Cutting form  
We are inclined to comment on the fact that the department implemented a notification new form,  
communicating to us that effective immediately they will only accept said new form, which includes the  
still in public comment and not yet finalized addition of the “30 day before cutting” requirement.  
Implementation of a form which includes requirements added in a new rule should coincide with the  
finalization effective date of the amended rule. We feel that this should simply be the precedence for all  
changes, both those we oppose, and those we desire.  
Section 3 on the cutting notification form asks for “silvicultural prescription according to the plan”. A  
large commercial forest with tens of thousands of acres, maintains a plan that may be over a hundred  
pages, contains extensive silvicutural methods available for forest management by timber type and  
depending on current stand condition to meet the plan objectives. Large acreage forest plans typically do  
not specify specific prescriptions at the individual stand level, and one cutting notification may contain  
multiple silvicutural prescriptions making it impractical to “tie” said prescription(s) back to the specifics  
in the plan. This section is ambiguous and redundant with section 5, and we feel it should be removed.  
Adding a silvicutural method descriptions section (4) is a nice addition for clarity, however the “preset”  
residual basal areas are highly restrictive and do not represent what we have learned to be acceptable  
ranges as resource professionals. Based on the act, it is not the place of the department to define acceptable  
silvicultural methods, which is what the addition of over-restrictive residual basal areas appears to be  
doing.  
Comments Specific to R 299.2605a; Rule 5a (1)  
We agree with and appreciate the addition of “foot access” into the public use section of the rules. As a  
large commercial forest landowner, we battle to curtail vehicle and ATV trespass on our forest lands,  
which often damages forest roads and culverts, and often leads to added cost and work to maintain BMPs  
and protect the forest resource. Damage and erosion caused by vehicles and ATV trespass on Longyear  
land has been a common theme in our FSC environmental audits. Although “foot traffic only” has been  
the opinion of the attorney general for the past many years, we greatly appreciate the clarification and  
addition of this language to the rules.  
Closing comments  
Longyear would like to thank you in advance for your time and consideration in this matter, and for the  
opportunity to comment. We urge the department to consider making further changes to address the  
concerns brought forth in this letter. One additional consideration may be to differentiate certain rules  
based on the size of the landowner, supporting large scale commercial operations such as Longyear’s,  
while allowing the department to enforce the known issues with smaller enlisted landowners. We suggest  
5000+ acres as the threshold for such a large commercial operation. We would be happy to answer any  
questions, provide any needed clarity, and meet and encourage an open dialog to help find viable and  
positive solutions.  
Re
Timothy P. Schneider  
Resource Planning & Development Mgr.  
J. M. Longyear, LLC  
210 North Front Street, First Floor  
Marquette, MI 49855  
7467 Co. 426 M.5 Rd • Gladstone, Michigan 49837  
Lyme Great Lakes Timberlands  
7467 County Road 426 M.5 Road  
Gladstone, MI 49837  
Michigan Department of Natural Resources  
Forest Resources Division  
Commercial Forest Program  
PO Box 30452  
Lansing, MI 48909-7952  
August 31, 2023  
Re: Public Comment to Commercial Forest Program 2023 Proposed Rules Changes  
Lyme Great Lakes Timberlands LLC (Lyme) is the owner of approximately 620,000 acres  
enrolled and managed under Michigan’s Commercial Forest Act (CFA). These lands provide  
economic benefit to loggers, haulers, mills, and the communities they reside in as well as  
hunting, fishing, and other recreational opportunities. We employ a team of 26 full-time and 2  
part-time staff who manage the property and ensure compliance with the Commercial Forest Act  
and Michigan Best Management Practices for Water Quality. Our management activities support  
work for 48 logging and hauling contractors, 22 road building contractors, and supply wood to  
54 mill customers. Since taking these lands under our management, we’ve continually worked to  
be a partner with the Michigan Department of Natural Resources (DNR). We support revising  
the administrative rules to make the program more easily interpreted for owners of enrolled lands  
and those considering enrolling their property in CFA.  
We welcome the opportunity to provide comment on the proposed rule changes and  
appreciate all discussion with DNR staff in advance of submitting these comments. It is our  
desire that proposed rule changes remain aligned with the statutory language of the Commercial  
Forest Act. Through conversation with DNR staff, we understand that most incidences of non-  
compliance originate from small forestland owners and that most proposed revisions address  
concerns directly related to these cases of non-compliance. Lyme supports, with revisions as  
presented, the Department of Natural Resources Forest Resource Division’s Commercial Rules  
as they appear today. We respectfully offer clarifying language to current draft rules for  
consideration by DNR and Department of Licensing and Regulatory Affairs:  
Page 1 R 299.2601 Rule 1 (4) (e), Include detail clarifying the circumstances under which  
the department determine a survey is necessary to determine eligibility for CFA  
enrollment.  
o A certified survey in accordance with section 1 of 1970 PA 132, MCL 54.211, if  
the department determines it is necessary to determine eligibility when the parcel  
applied for listing includes meets and bounds descriptions.  
Page 3 R 299.2604 Rule 4 (10), To provide of ease of locating exact language within the  
Act pertaining to exceptions for wind energy development, include in the rule language  
referencing applicable sections.  
o The owner of listed land shall advise the department of any commercial mineral  
extraction operations or wind energy production and initiate withdrawal of the  
listed land affected before mineral extraction or wind energy production, as per  
section 51113 (5) (a-c) of the act MCL 324.51113.  
Page 5 R 299.2605 Rule 5 (d), Additional language clarifying the specific easements  
necessary for review and a response period.  
o An easement may be granted across listed land if the effect on productivity of the  
listed land is minimal. The owner shall submit a copy of the prospective easement  
across listed land to the department for review at least 30 days before entering  
into such an agreement. The department shall make a determination that the  
easement complies with the statute and notify the owner within 30 days of  
submission. The prospective easement shall be determined as being compliant  
with the statute should the department’s response not be received by the owner of  
listed land within 30 days of submission. Easements with minimal effect of  
productivity and those for road and utility rights-of-way shall not be submitted or  
subject to review and shall continue to be classified as commercial forest as per  
section 324.51113 (5) (c) of the act MCL 324.51113.  
Page 5 R 299.2605 Rule 5 (e), Add clarification of how the term improvement will be  
interpreted and allow for temporary improvement used exclusively for commercial forest  
management operations.  
o Buildings or improvements must not be allowed on listed land, except those used  
exclusively for conducting the management and/or operation of commercial  
forests or as specified in R 299.2604 (7).  
Page 5 R 299.2605 Rule 5 (f), To provide of ease of locating exact language with the Act,  
include in the rule language referencing applicable sections stating where a property  
without access may remain listed under act.  
o An owner shall submit to the department, upon request, a description of public  
access to specific parcel descriptions of listed land for the purpose of hunting and  
fishing. The description must be in a format that meets the recording requirements  
of the county register of deeds. Properties without access may remain listed under  
the act as per section 51113 (1) (a-c) of the act MCL 324.51113.  
Page 6 R 299.2605b Rule 5b (1), Add clarifying language stating a response period for  
the department.  
o The department shall make a determination that the copy of the new of updated  
forest management plan is compliant with the minimum requirements and notify  
the owner within 30 days of submission. The prospective new or updated forest  
management plan shall be determined as being compliant with the minimum  
requirements established by the department should the department’s response not  
be received by the owner of listed land within 30 days of submission.  
Page 6 R 299.2605b Rule 5b (3), Add clarifying language stating a response period for  
the department.  
o The department shall make a determination that the amended or revised forest  
management plan is compliant with the minimum requirements established by the  
department and notify the owner within 30 days of submission. The prospective  
amended or revised forest management plan shall be determined as being  
compliant with the minimum requirements established by the department should  
the department’s response not be received by the owner of listed land within 30  
days of submission.  
Page 6 R 299.2606 Rule 6 (1), This change is not easily accommodated by the owner  
with large areas listed under the act. We recommend shortening the period of notification  
prior to removing forest products and the addition of language allowing owners of large  
areas listed under the act a shortened notification period in cases of unforeseen weather or  
economic conditions. This change will provide for better forest management and  
compliance with BMPs, as well as reduce the disruption to loggers, truckers, mills, and  
other large contributors to the supply chain.  
o The owner of listed land shall submit to the department a notification of intent to  
harvest on a form prescribed by the department not less than 14 days before  
cutting, harvesting, or removing forest products from listed land. For owners with  
greater than 5,000 acres or more enrolled, where unforeseen weather or economic  
conditions warrant, notice of intent to harvest may be submitted no less than 3  
days before cutting, harvesting, or removing forest products from listed lands.  
Page 6 R 299.2606 Rule 6 (4), Modify language to remain consistent with the title of the  
notification form.  
o The department shall approve a harvest notification for a period not to exceed 2  
years. If harvesting operations, except transport of products, is not completed  
within the approved time period, an additional notification must be submitted to  
the department for the same description.  
Page 6 R 299.2606 Rule 6 (5), Modify language to remain consistent with the title of the  
notification form.  
o The owner shall notify the department of any changes to the harvest described on  
the harvest notification form including descriptions, harvest practices, or other  
terms on the notification form.  
Respectfully submitted,  
William D. “Bill” O’Brion, General Manager  
Lyme Great Lakes Timberlands LLC  
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